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Post by shachalnur logged out Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:39 pm

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I think I turned to be right on prof. nanotech Charles Lieber from harvard..

He's the first indictment that kicks off the so called storm.

Coronavirus ,wuhan ,nanotech Adrenochrome ,and what I think HIV

greta thunberg says she has corona

Poor tool,i can't imagine what they have done to that girl


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Post by shachalnur not logged in Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:09 pm

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the new fascist govt in Israel isn't there yet ,but trump psyop already congratulated  Bibistein with his new govt.

Shows that Bibi and Trump are part of the same psyop.

Still think that's NSA ,US army ,Chabad and Rockefeller.

Q and all the other cheerleaders sometimes critisize Rockefeller but not wholeheartedly ,and the image of rockefeller on meme's and twitter is never in his latest days:

Looking like an evil  Vampire from hell,but always the nicer looking groomed middle aged Rockefeller.

As long as Q or whatever it's part of,doesn't seriously attack Rockefeller(BIG PHARMA,BIG UNIVERSITIES,BIG AGRI,BIG OIL  and BIG WEAPONS) I don't believe that what comes next is gonna be better.

It looks like they(Rockefeller) are enacting the new testament end times, as where Rothschild tried to enact the Hebrew version.

So according to the newest version,we're gonna get a new Messias ,actually the first the Antichrist ,is it not?

So what if the one who saved the world with this brilliant adrenochrome plan and made everybody happy turns out to be Jared Damien Kushner?

Is he gonna move from 5th avenue 666 to sit under the all seeying eye of the Jerusalem Supreme Court?

Q comes from the letter Quph ,Hebrew letter

https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/ancient-alphabet/quph.htm

It means 'Circle/Revolution/Time/Sun"

Kabbala  and Kushner are in hebrew both written with Quph at the start.

whatever.

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Post by shachalnur not logged in Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:39 pm

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The (S)words are very loud today especially in Israel and Milan italy.

First this one from israel.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/health-ministry-delays-providing-test-results-citing-computer-error/

around 1200 testresults may have been reported to patients with false results.
they don't know if it's just the results from the last days or if it has been going on for weeks.

Remember Adolfo BibiStein is at the point of locking everybody up in their houses,but the cases are really nothing serious and many people are starting to protest outside with black flags.

so now we get this:

"if it's a small sampling error ,it's negligible.If it's an ongoing problem it would be dramatic. "

code for : We're telling you there are many more 'sick' ,we have no proof but you have to trust us,so we will lock you up anyway ,eventough there are no cases.'

Did you know the App used by the shinbet and the healthministry that tells people they might be infected and they will have to go home and lock yourself up is called;

HaMAGEN   that means the 'Shield '  (S)word like in Shield of Edom(Rothschild- MAGEN EDOM)


the second interesting (S)word I found today is in milan italy

Mosaico,jewish community  italian site from milan.

There is a description of all going on in milan amongst jewish community.the names and positions of jews that died from muh corona.

i'll explain later but I think I found another (S) words there..

ADRENOCHROME had another name in the old greek times

the name is AMBROSIA

One of the çorona'dead Jews in milan ,named Rafaella Mortara.(61,no underlying issues)

she's the daughter of very important parents.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luisella_Ottolenghi_Mortara

no children ,ofcourse

She and her mother are more than very connected to Biblioteca AMBROSIANA in milan.

SIGMA ALDRICH (part of MERCK company)is a company producing and distributing Adrenochrome.

Their only office in italy is,ofcourse , Milan.

so there's 500 jews dead in italy already from corona. ,just very diffcult to see who they are.

many in milan ,the centre of the outbreak,

many who died are not old,

lot's of checking to be done.

my guess ADRENOCHROME ,milan jewish communiuty,biblioteca AMBROSIAna(strong collaboration between jews and catholics,under the cover of ART)
500 jews dead already ,67 priests, almost all suicides.
this was the distribution centre for adrenochrome in Europe especially supplying Jews and catholics in italy and europe.

later more maybe.

links:https://www.mosaico-cem.it/comunita/news/addio-a-raffaella-mortara-1958-2020

https://www.mosaico-cem.it/category/comunita

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-italian-jews-the-smell-of-death-is-all-around/

The last article is written by cnaan lipshitz

i know the guy personally cause dutch.

he's 100% zio tool.

he already wrote about 0,3 % of population is jews ,but 5 % of dead from coronsa also jews(factor 166)

and now he's showing us where the sicko's live and what they do.

very special.

i think israel will show all of rothschild's traces in europe so ALL jews will be blamed ,and will have to be forced to israel.

no. they will go to patagonia ,russia,china or guatemala

together with most israeli jews.

more later

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:37 pm

I know you already mentioned the Johns Hopkins institute and EVENT 201, shachalnur. I'll just put this post here as well:

KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Ian56
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Event201 - simulating a worldwide pandemic held in October 2019.
Sponsored by John Hopkins with the Davos Globalist Corporate Oligarchy & Globalist Corporatist Eugenicist Bill Gates
http://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

Subtitled: How the Ruling Elites can use fear to control the masses


Event 201


"The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences."

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/


2019 Military World Games

The 2019 Military World Games, officially known as the 7th CISM Military World Games and commonly known as Wuhan 2019, was held from October 18–27, 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei, China.


"Five of US troopers developed a fever on October 25, and were taken to an infectious-diseases hospital for treatment."

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2020/03/25/covid19-crash2-china-hits-back-at-us-propaganda-panics-pompeo-as-dow-jones-makes-miracle-recovery/

It's exactly one week after both events started. One week is usual COVID19 incubation period...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:52 pm

shachalnur wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:I know you already mentioned the Johns Hopkins institute and EVENT 201, shachalnur. I'll just put this post here as well:

KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Ian56
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Event201 - simulating a worldwide pandemic held in October 2019.
Sponsored by John Hopkins with the Davos Globalist Corporate Oligarchy & Globalist Corporatist Eugenicist Bill Gates
http://centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

Subtitled: How the Ruling Elites can use fear to control the masses


Event 201


"The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences."

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/


2019 Military World Games

The 2019 Military World Games, officially known as the 7th CISM Military World Games and commonly known as Wuhan 2019, was held from October 18–27, 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei, China.


"Five of US troopers developed a fever on October 25, and were taken to an infectious-diseases hospital for treatment."

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2020/03/25/covid19-crash2-china-hits-back-at-us-propaganda-panics-pompeo-as-dow-jones-makes-miracle-recovery/

It's exactly one week after both events started. One week is usual COVID19 incubation period...

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Thanks Zod.

feel it's definitely part of one of the psyops going on .

can't really find the reason they picked  the number '201',or what is it's significance.

would love to know..

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Me too. Twisted Evil

Well, it depend's what's your definitiion of psyop. I'm pretty sure that the virus is real. There are people dying everywhere and if countries as Russia, Syria or Iran take it seriously then so do I.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by shachalnur not logged in Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:52 am

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now the Q peeps start talking in (S)words I found a long time ago.

https://twitter.com/Inevitable_ET/status/1246604497536901121

"first we MAGA

Then we Mega"

Then we kill the snek(sic)"

Dunno if he made it up himself or got help..

if this repeats(the first two sentences)it's a reference to gog and magog.

religious lunatics,end of days cult shit.

Might be coinkidinki,but that looks bad

Rock-maga and Roth-mega

When these two (S)words join, the war starts.

That's the bible they are writing,enacting biblical profecies.

sheep will believe it.

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Post by 刘汉 Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:40 pm

It is difficult to make sense out of all the text you are writing. And nearly nobody is commenting on this thread Rolling Eyes
Long story short, is it this, what you want to tell us:

There is a group of Jews, that is using this adenochrome-drug to make their already existing schizophrenia even stronger and is giving this drug to other people, who are aspiring powerful jobs. Is it this? And now this virus is attacking especially people, who have schizophrenia, are Jews or are consuming this drug? But why? Are there two fighting groups? Is Ben Fulford's Green Dragon Society attacking the Zionists???? Question Question Question Question

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Post by Zambeezi Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:00 pm

shachalnur
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
shachalnur wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
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USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China. Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources.

Video

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnBWellsCTM/status/1246505891911925762

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I wrote about the arrest of this guy many weeks ago.

His arrest was 28th of januari,just before the outbreak in china officially started.

this is the official release:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

by the way ,he was released 2 days later ,on 30th of januari on 1 million dollar bond.

Whole story stinks.

And he's jewish,ofcourse

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There really seems to be a connection. This guy was funded by the US government, the Chinese government and it seems even by Jeffrey Epstein. He founded an own lab in Wuhan. What was he doing really, whom did he serve really?

Interesting case indeed...

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I can try ,had a few weeks to think about it,but my ideas belong on 'world THEORIES',not world events.

What I see is either (still) invisible or will happen later.

1. Coronavirus is a hoax,countries in the know take advantage of the hype and panic created by certain govt's.
Govt's use this situation to clean up and change whatever they want inside their own countries.
These measures are very different from country to country,western Europe,GB ,USA and Israel are going full Nazi,other countries much less.
Countries that are hit hardest are full of the 'ususal suspects' if it comes to the reptilian bloodsucking NWO.
Countries with no power,or outside the rich western areas are spared.
Death under 70 of relatively healthy people are always famous ,rich ,rabbi,priest ,journalists or politicians.
2. One exception; Iran,it could be they released something there that was weaponized(making just any ugly Coronavirus is not diffcult ,but it will hardly
spread and cause only local damage, like Sars or even muh Ebola.
3. So my theory is that prof Lieber had nothing to do with corona ,but very much with nanotechnology transference to china.
If china wanted something with coronavirus they can get it anywhere or produce it themselves, and lieber was no specialist in that.
4. Bill Gates is screaming 'vaccine' all day long,has many factories in China, is directly connected with the Wuhan bio lab AND the factory where
Adrenochrome is produced.
5. Methinks Lieber worked with Gates and China to produce nanotechnology to be added to vaccines and whatever else.
6. Somewhere along the way,probably after intercepting a batch,some powers(the good guys lol) made sure adrenochrome from wuhan was tainted,in
order to flatten the elites that are visible and slurp blood.
7. They are getting sick and are dying right now,or are singing like birds under arrest,and will disappear later.
8. Life,or what's left of it,goes on ,and everybody in the West is locked up ,you will only be let outside after you had your vaccine and special corona
passport from Bill Gates and WHO.
9. Then comes the Big test,if the new Boss is gonna push the bill gates' new vaccine as well ,head for the mountains,because that jab is full of Lieber's
nanotech.
Much more than a chip ,probably nanorobots in your bloodstream ,taking orders from the outside.

Have a nice day.

ps ,Zod or Zambeezi,could you move a copy of this post to 'World theories",that's where it fits better,me still neanderthaler on compu.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:39 pm

shachalnur wrote:.

Strong rumors around 150 Saudi Royals sick and hospital bound with Corona.

Would be nice and logical.

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Here:

KneelB4Zod! wrote:"The New York Times: Corona hits 150 members of the Saudi royal family, King Salman and his crown prince are under isolation, and the Prince of Riyadh is under extreme care"


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:55 am

We're fucked. In Sweden they already being chipped, voluntarily. The most of us being tracked via smart phones, smart watches, credit cards...

Now they gonna tell us it's good for our health, to keep our fams in safe. Just take our medicine, be chipped and you gonna be immortal. Data hoarding in fact...




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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by 刘汉 Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:25 pm

shachalnur wrote:.

When the germans still had kings and emperors they lived in the Berlin Palace.

and that building is on fire today.

According to the (S)words they'll go for the King ,the Lawmakers,the Judges and the Gold.
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Only the kings and emperors of the Prussians lived there (at Potsdam to be correct) not the Germans. German kings and emperors where in lot of countries and towns, especially in Vienna. What building do you mean with "Berlin Palace"???

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Post by 刘汉 Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:05 pm

shachalnur wrote:.

correct ,the Prussians.

it's all symbolical at the moment,

https://www.thelocal.de/20200408/80-firefighters-tackle-blaze-at-rebuilt-kaisers-palace-in-berlin

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https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article228871993/Stadtschloss-Berlin-Mitte-Feuer-am-Humboldt-Forum.html

Yes, the "Stadtschloß" was burning. A symbol for what?

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Post by 刘汉 Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:34 pm

shachalnur wrote:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Palace

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Schloss

(S)words.

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So what?

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Post by shachalnur not logged in Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:52 pm

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childless Serpent and bloodslurper Yoav Harari,and his husband ,writer and historian give $ 1 million to WHO because USA doesn't want to give money to this chinese organisation of eugenicists..

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:05 pm

It's not within current COVID topic but still, I'm interested in your opinion as I consider you, shachalnur, as well informed regarding this. You probably missed my question while ago so I will just paste it here:

KneelB4Zod! wrote:Btw, what's your opinon on this, shachalnur (or others interested in the topic)?

A few days ago we have quite interesting debate on Twitter related to Judaism, zionism etc. Some interesting claims from anti-zionist participants were maid:


Zippy 🌹 🇵🇸
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Judaism was first practised by Arabs in Mesopotamia  in the Abbasid Calipahte from 8th century AD and the Rabbinic and Karaite Jews crystallised in the 10th C. through efforts by Saadya Gaon.


or

Cigarro Cubano
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I have no issues with Torah Jews and their beliefs, each is entitled to their own beliefs, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Judaism (partly) adopted Hebrew texts/prophets, and adopted the people as their own. That doesn't make Judeans into Jews though.


We even reached 1st/2nd century and Simeon Bar Kokhba. By Torah Jews his uprising is usually described as another example of oaths transgression:

"In the year 130 CE, Simeon Bar Kochba led a Jewish revolt against Rome and established a Jewish kingdom. This is another one of the cases listed by the Midrash when the oaths were transgressed. The Talmud (Sanhedrin 93b) says that when the Jewish Sages of that time realized that Bar Kochba was not the messiah, they killed him, putting a stop to his revolt."

He was seen as messiah and, thus, he tired to re-establish the kingdom. Rabbi Akiva gave him name "Bar Kokhba" - Son of Star.

The opinion of the participant was:

Cigarro Cubano
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It was a Judean revolt, not "Jewish". "Judean" is a geographical reference, whose inhabitants in Jesus' time were all black people, including Judahites, Benjaminites, Levites, Edomites and other Hebrews. 1/2

Cigarro Cubano
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Those amongst them who were faithful to Hebrew prophets, were also faithful to Jesus. hence not Jews. The remainder (including 'pharisees') were polytheists, ergo not Jews either. 2/2


What's your take on this?

I always considered Judaism as one of the earliest, if not the earliest, monotheist religions. There were some interesting arguments rised, outside of my knowledge. Even if I'm not lazy to learn informations about such not widely known personas as Bar Kokhba I can't make my mind over this. What's your take, my friend?

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by 刘汉 Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:38 am

KneelB4Zod! wrote: what's your opinon on this, shachalnur (or others interested in the topic)?

A few days ago we have quite interesting debate on Twitter related to Judaism, zionism etc. Some interesting claims from anti-zionist participants were maid: [....] I always considered Judaism as one of the earliest, if not the earliest, monotheist religions. There were some interesting arguments rised, outside of my knowledge.

The first monotheism afaik was preached under Amenhotep IV > Akhenaten about 1400 BC.
Judaism evolved and changed over the millenia, this seems to be clear.
Yes, during the Abbasid dynasty there flourished the schools of Pumbadita and Sura in Mesopotamia, but even they are older and go back to about 200 AD.
If you want to make a difference between the Hebrew texts and the Jews, even this is not old enough. The Hebrew texts were finished in Mesopotamia under the Chaldaean or Neo-Babylonian dynasty (625 - 535 BC). There is a possibility, that the Hebrew texts were taken over by different people, but not afterwards. Under the Persian Akhaimenid dynasty these Jews got permission from the Shah-in-Shah to create a Jewish state in the place, were Israel is now. But it is not clear under which Shah-in-Shah or in what century. It could be the 5th or the 4th century BC. The texts about this "return" are not written in Hebrew, they are written in Aramaic: the books of Esra and Nehemia. At this time these Jews were clearly monotheistic, because the Greeks and Romans wrote about this problem. There were immediately fights between different groups (Maccabaeans etc.). One group even fled to Egypt and got permission by the Ptolemees to build a temple. There were differences in the Hebrew texts, one was brought from Mesopotamia and another one was the Samaritanian one. If they would not have been monotheistic, Christianity would also not be monotheistic.
But in the Hebrew texts there are clear indications about polytheistic beliefs. Under king Hiskia of Juda (ca. 750 - 700 BC) there were monotheistic reforms. This is the same time, when in Egypt under the 25th dynasty (ca. 750 - 650 BC) the god Amun was worshipped exclusively. So there was a general trend to monotheism. But this was reversed in the late 7th century again in Egypt and Juda.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:55 am

Thank you for your input regarding my question. I see it similary, even without your more detalied knowing.

At firs I ant to conclude my dispute with Zippy and Cubano. We came to same end as we, after all, agreed that find origins of Judaism and when it started is not easy at all and is affected by personal believes. What was important was that we came, regardless the path we took, to the same conslusion - zionism is abomination and direct opposition of Judaism.

Your description of the current state of Judaism is quite well. It seems to be absorbed by the zionist entity. However, people as rabbi Shapiro hold the flag.
Righ now I'm too lazy to look for the correct names but your description of current Judaism state reminds me old story of just a few dfenders of Judaism facing the betrial of the most. It's probably quite known story but I can't put in details atm...

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Thank you for your input regarding my question. I see it similary, even without your more detalied knowing.

At firs I ant to conclude my dispute with Zippy and Cubano. We came to same end as we, after all, agreed that find origins of Judaism and when it started is not easy at all and is affected by personal believes. What was important was that we came, regardless the path we took, to the same conslusion - zionism is abomination and direct opposition of Judaism.

Your description of the current state of Judaism is quite well. It seems to be absorbed by the zionist entity. However, people as rabbi Shapiro hold the flag.
Righ now I'm too lazy to look for the correct names but your description of current Judaism state reminds me old story of just a few dfenders of Judaism facing the betrial of the most. It's probably quite known story but I can't put in details atm...

What I have written is just, where I agree with mainstream textbook knowledge, not where I disagree. Being an Ancient Historian and Egyptologist, this is my area of expertise and I can check all the sources myself and I am fully aware, that there are agendas involved.
Just to tell you this: Even the Israeli archaeologists Finkelstein and Silberman 2001: The bible unearthed had to admit, that they could not find any proof in the earth in modern-day Israel for the events told in the Hebrew texts. This was a serious hit for the Zionist agenda. So they concluded, everything was just a little bit smaller than told in the texts, just because they could not find anything. But this is not the whole truth. Starting before WWI and excavating till WWII a German group of archaeologists were working in the North Syrian and Southern Turkish region in a place called Samal. There they found a small state called in the inscriptions "Jahudia" and alle the royal names agreed with the Hebrew texts and Assyrian sources. This was common knowledge among German Ancient Historians these days. But after WWII the excavation permit was taken away from the Germans and given to the University of Chicago. The result is clear. No one is talking about a state "Jahudia" in this region anymore, because anything that could possible undermine the Zionist claim is considered "Anti-Semitism". So the Hebrew texts must describe the region of the Zionist entity of "Israel".
The other thing is chronology. According to the current textbook chronology a creation of Judaism under the Abbasid dynasty is impossible, it must be under the Neo-Babylonian dynasty at the latest, but... This chronology depends on the Greek chronology. And personally doubt the Greek chronology. When they translated the Hebrew texts into Greek (the so called Septuaginta) the extended the chronology for the creation of the world. This is common knowledge. But I am convinced, that they extended the chronology in the 13th century again by pushing back in time the great classical era of Greece at about 1000 years. By doing so they doubled the Persian dynasty (Akhaimenids and Sassanids). By doing this calculation I did not think about the Jews, but this could solve the problem with the Abbasid dynasty. But this is just my personal crazy idea.

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Post by 刘汉 Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:28 am

The topic is very complex. So I would like to add one more point. The Abbasid dynasty is a problem also from a different perspective. From the Akhaimenid over the Seleukid, Parthian, Sassanid and Umayyad dynasties Aramaic was the language, that was used as lingua franca in the Middle East. But under the Abbasid dynasty Arabic was officially pushed as the new language for the Middle East. This means, that at this time as the latest the Quran was finished. There are many theories, how the Quran came into being, but this is the latest possible time. Muslims of course would disagree and put it even before the Umayyad dynasty. And in the Quran all the stories told in the Hebrew texts are told also, especially the Exodos story. This means, that the Tora must be older. But the version told in the Quran is very strange and is only similiar to the version told by the Mandaeans in Southern Iraq. The big difference is, that the story of Moses/Musa is connected with the story of Jesus/Isa. The connection is the sister of Moses and the mother of Jesus: Mary/Maryam. And the location is different, not so much in the Quran, more in the stories of the Mandaeans: The people of Israel is not leaving from Egypt, but from a place in Mesopotamia, either the Kurdish mountains or a place south of Babylon, called Misr/Mizraim and they are migrating south to the yam al suf (the Sea of Reeds), that is clearly localized in the marshes of Southern Iraq. During the migration there is a split in the group, one is following Isa and one is following Musa.
So if you reserve the term "Judaism" for the post-Abbasid times, how would you call the prae-Abbasid times? That there are differences and changes are clear, but it is just a name.
I think, that (at least) one group migrated from Mesopotamia/Babylonia to the place where the modern entity of Israel is. They called it a "return", but the Hebrew texts can be localized in different areas. One group went to Adiabene (Northern Syria) and another group went to Yemen. The group in "Israel" localized "Mizraim" in Egypt. That is, why the Greeks translated it in the Septuaginta with Aigyptos. But actually, mizr or mizraim just means "fortress at the border" and it can be anywhere (There are many different "mizrs" even in early Arabic language). The interpretation "Egypt" just served their agenda as it is still serving the Zionist agenda.

Sorry for writing so long, I am very interested in this topic and you have to consider many different perspectives to understand the problem, you have raised.

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Post by 刘汉 Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:04 am

Just for fun 3 more points about the origin or development of the Jewish religion.

1: We were talking about the Abbasid dynasty. Under the Umayyad dynasty, the predecessor of the Abbasids, the capital was in Damascus. One of the most famous viziers was Ioannes Damaskenos or John of Damascus. He was a Christian, he took part in Christian councils in the Byzantine empire and wrote about Islam. The important points are, the discussion on these councils was about "ikones" (pictures). Up to this time pictures were no problem. In Umayyad mosques were pictures, but in Abbasid mosques they were forbidden. So the Christians and the Muslims were discussing to outlaw pictures at the same time, because in the Decalog (the 10 commandments) they are forbidden. The result was, that the Christians kept the pictures and the Muslims outlawed them. John of Damascus was deeply involved in these discussions. From his point of view Christians and Muslims did not have a different religion, they just followed different branches like Catholicism and Protestantism. And why did they discuss the pictures, when they were forbidden 2000 years before by Moses? It would make more sense, if this "commandment" would have been a recent one.

2: In about 1900 a fight between German scholars broke out. The fight was called: "Babel und Bibel" (Babylon and the Bible). They had discovered, that there are close similarities between biblical and Babylonian texts, especially about the great flood, the sabbath etc. So their point was, the Old Testament is heavily influenced by the Babylonian culture. To be more precise, it could be pinned down to the Southern Babylonian/Iraqi city of Eridu. Of course all evangelical Christians and Jews opposed this view. Today it is considered "pseudo-scientific". But the similarities are still there, just no one is allowed to talk about them.

3: At about the same time in the Southern Egyptian city of Elephantine (modern Assuan), there were discovered a lot of papyri. These papyri were written at the end of the 5th century BC. These papyri were letters. Combined with other texts from Babylonia (Nippur) the content could be reconstructed. At this time Egypt was a Persian province. Arsham, a member of the royal family was governor (satrap) of Egypt. But he as a Persian was not interested to be in Egypt and preferred to stay in Persia proper. So he went to a Jewish bank in Iraq, the house of Murashu, and made a deal with them. They should pay a specific amount of money to him and could keep the taxes of Egypt. Of course they wanted to make profit and squeezed as much out of Egypt as possible. The Egyptians had never seen money before, it was a cashless society till it was conquered by the Persians. And they saw, that Jews were taking the money out of Egypt. So they became angry and attacked Jews everywhere. In Elephantine they destroyed the Jewish temple. This Jewish temple is especially interesting, because it was a temple and not a synagoge. In this temple they made bloody offerings of sheeps to Anat-Jah. The Egyptians had a temple of Chnum in Elephantine and the sheep was the holy animal of Chnum. So this Jewish temple was insulting the local Egyptians. So they destroyed it. The local Jews wrote letters to the governor in Persia and complained. And they wrote letters to Bagoas in Jerusalem. From the last letters it became clear, that the Jews in Elephantine had no Torah and did not think, the temple in Jerusalem should be the only one. And they had no desire to "return" to Jerusalem. They were clearly polytheistic and worshipped Anat-Jah a female goddess. The Persians restored the Jewish temple in Elephantine. This enraged the Egyptians even more and they threw out all Persians and Jews and declared independence in 404. This is the first attested pogrom. These "Egyptian" Jews were not Torah-Jews.


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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:58 pm

shachalnur wrote:.

so the small amount of protesters in Israel(so called Black flag protesters, a bit like yellow vests) ,who fear democracy in Israel is dead are called 'Fascists' by the Likud now.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/likud-says-anti-netanyahu-protesters-reminiscent-of-fascists/

things are going fast there,today a mentally instable israeli jew was killed by a cop with 10 bullets.

Don't forget,what you see in Israel will be on your doorstep in Western europe and usa in a month or so.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:06 pm

shachalnur wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
shachalnur wrote:.

so the small amount of protesters in Israel(so called Black flag protesters, a bit like yellow vests) ,who fear democracy in Israel is dead are called 'Fascists' by the Likud now.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/likud-says-anti-netanyahu-protesters-reminiscent-of-fascists/

things are going fast there,today a mentally instable israeli jew was killed by a cop with 10 bullets.

Don't forget,what you see in Israel will be on your doorstep in Western europe and usa in a month or so.

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we're gonna see weird stuff in several places,but mainly in western europa, the USa and the middle east.

like Ww1 and ww2 ,they were european issues with usa skipping in.

no real worldwar,this time it's western europe with israel against the rest .

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:22 pm

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hezbollah razzia's in germany have several consequences that most don't think about:

usually if there's trouble with hezbollah ,germany was go between because hezbollah offices in germany.

not anymore,they closed and emptied the offices,stole all documents and computers ,arrested members..

that means that when things go ugly in the ME,germany,just like GB,france and netherlands, won't play a role as go between

it's also a sign to other organizatons in europe that (soon) they 'll not be safe.

so they'll go underground everywhere in europe.

The unrest in lebanon economically is by design ,and it feels like there's gonna be action soon in the Levant.

this time germany,france,holland,gb,and maybe even usa will stay out of that conflict,because corona muh.

actually a repetition of the situation in june 2012,when it looked like israel was gonna face hezbollah ,syria and iran alone.

if that was the scenario they tried to avoid in 2012,they've got it now.

Western Europe is shitting their pants for the fallout.

USA has got little to lose when the levant blows up,besides israel and some camelphuckers in saudi arabia.

maybe therefore the absurd corona psyop measures in israel and western europe .

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I'm very close to such conclusions. Very well summed up. Dunno if you've seen this in the main thread but it perfectly describes the mess in Germany:



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This decison was entirely based on zionist order from Washington. Germany is occupied country, ruled from abroad.

I'm still uncertain about COVID though. Still I think there's some strange flu, more infectious and, thus, more deadly (ostensibly, as more people are infected in shorter time), and some measures are appropriate (as in countries with virtually non-existent health system as USA or UK) but reaction I would call absurd as you did.

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Post by shachalnur Mon May 04, 2020 7:33 pm

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nethanyahu will give speech on 'exit strategy'.

as you know ,I think Israel wll be cancellled soon,I just wonder if they let the Israeli's leave that want to leave ,or they just keep them there for glorious suicide

Nethanyahu's lawyer in front of the supreme court:

"The opposition is a conceptual concept(sic)"

Spreme court is also moving from rothschild to rockefeller,so that's all.

complete takeover by rockefeller.

situation is like 2012,only rockefeller is in charge ,not rothschild anymore.

So instead of blowing up the templemount,what they can still try,(rothschild plan) were gonna have annexation,full fascist Eugenics takeover,probably war with lebanon,and internally hoping the nazi's can stay in power.

After that israel will be cancelled,and people will leave.

i think there will be a problem with a serious part of the population who see what's coming and want to get out,because they will be the target before the state is cancelled.

most talking heads for israel that 'work' in europe are crying like crazy,they know something is badly wrong ,but even they don't really know what.

Why are there so many jews dying from corona outside israel?

they are behaving like scared little mice,that see dangers everywhere,almost in panic.

Screaming that everybody not locking down and not wanting to be vaxxed is murdering people.

and now slowly non jews are getting really pissed off with all these jews and israeli's in their countries shouting for the population to be locked up and vaccinated.

it's backfiring badly.

So on the one hand there are zionist jews worldwide trying to scare jews into israel ,like they did before 1940.

on the other hand the geopolitical situation ,the position on the grand chessboard ,is not getting better for israel.

can't see GB ,france EU or even USA fighting a war for israel in the middle east right now.

so if things get ugly with hezbollah ,israel is more or less alone against hezbollah ,syria, and iran.

EU,GB and usa will give plenty of money to holocaustmuseums and holocaust monuments,and will make 666 laws against antisemitism,but they will not send a soldier,or even weapons.

Even Czech rep is talking to bibi about making special agreements on tourism between 6 countries who 'controlled coronavirus in their countries'.

Will that include vaccines ,special passports or chips?

All fake ,there's not gonna be vaccines,just chaos and the next psyop,untill one side wins or both sides lose.

there is a very different game going on.

we'll see.

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