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Post by Zambeezi Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:51 am

Abacus wrote:Kidnapping of Aldo Moro

It was the first time since 1947 that Italian Communists had a government position, even if indirect.
The success of the action would thus halt the Communists' rise to Italian state institutions,
reassuring the BR as a key point in a future revolutionary war against capitalism.

During the days of Moro's imprisonment journalist Carmine Pecorelli (see also below) wrote, in his magazine Osservatorio politico,
an article entitled "Vergogna, buffoni!" ("Shame on you, clowns!"): in it he wrote that Giulio Andreotti had met general Dalla Chiesa
who told the politician that he knew the location where Moro was kept, but did not obtain the authorization to proceed to free him
due to (in Pecorelli's words) a certain "Christ's lodge in paradise".
The likely allusion to P2 became clear only after the discovery of a list of the lodge members on 17 March 1981.

Members of the lodge occupied important institutional positions and included: Giuseppe Santovito, director of SISMI;
prefect Walter Pelosi, director of CESIS; general Giulio Grassini of SISDE; admiral Antonino Geraci, commander of SIOS;
Federico Umberto D'Amato, director of the Office of Reserved Affairs of the Ministry of the Interiors;
generals Raffaele Giudice and Donato Lo Prete, respectively commander and chief-of-staff of the Guardia di Finanza;
and Carabinieri general Giuseppe Siracusano, responsible for road blocks in the capital during the investigations of the Moro affair.

On 16 March 1978, the day of Moro's kidnapping, the most important members of P2
met in the Hotel Excelsior in Rome—a few hundred meters from the United States Embassy.
While exiting the hotel Gelli declared "the most difficult part is done".
It was supposed that his words referred to the abduction of Moro.

In 2005 Giovanni Galloni, former national vice-secretary of Christian Democracy, said that during a discussion with Moro about the difficulty to find the Red Brigades' bases
Moro told him that he knew of the presence of US and Israeli intelligence agents infiltrated within the BR.
However the information obtained was not given to the Italian investigators.
He also declared that the reason of the assassination of journalist Carmine Pecorelli was the same information, perhaps coming from the United States.

During the 1983 trial against the BR Moro's widow, Eleonora Chiavarelli, declared that her husband was unpopular in the United States due to the historic compromise matter,
and that he had been repeatedly warned by American politicians to stop disrupting the political situation which had been established in the Yalta conference
(in reference to the possible executive role of the Italian Communist Party). According to her Henry Kissinger was one of the American personalities who menaced Moro in 1974 and 1976.
She said that the words to Moro which he repeated to her were:

   ... you have to put an end to your political plan of mustering all the forces in your country to collaborate directly.
Here, or you stop doing this thing, or you will be badly punished.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Aldo_Moro


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Stateless persons will not be vaxxed because they can sue for damages

Here is how it works: In ALL the countries that are giving the pfizer and other MRNA shots, agreements were signed by those countries saying their citizens cannot sue the vax producers. But if you are a stateless refugee, you are not bound by any such agreements and CAN sue. So vax mandates are not being applied to refugees, because they have more protection than citizens of subverted countries that sold out.

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Post by ShockJock Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:20 pm

It grieves me to have to report to the public that we are in danger. The situation between the US/EU/NATO and RUSSIA over Ukraine is escalating beyond all reason. Actual steps are now being actively taken which, if not stopped, WILL lead to nuclear war; perhaps before Christmas.

Normally, archives of my radio show are for paying subscribers only. THIS is just too important to keep behind a paywall.

For the good of my fellow Americans, and for decent, peace-loving people everywhere, I offer Friday night's one-hour radio show -- FREE.

Only the first 37 minutes are essential to hear.

It lays out the situation. How we got here. Who is doing what. And where it is leading . . . fast.

For instance, today, Russia CLOSED the northern sea route. This just crushed trade between Europe and Asia because ships can no longer travel along Russia's northern coastline to Asia. Russia explicitly stated this closure is due to NATO activities! The Red Line on the image below shows what is now closed:

Full Article Click Here

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Post by 刘汉 Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:13 pm

ShockJock wrote:It grieves me to have to report to the public that we are in danger.  The situation between the US/EU/NATO and RUSSIA over Ukraine is escalating beyond all reason.  Actual steps are now being actively taken which, if not stopped, WILL lead to nuclear war; perhaps before Christmas.

Normally, archives of my radio show are for paying subscribers only.  THIS is just too important to keep behind a paywall.

For the good of my fellow Americans, and for decent, peace-loving people everywhere, I offer Friday night's one-hour radio show -- FREE.

Only the first 37 minutes are essential to hear.

It lays out the situation.  How we got here.  Who is doing what.  And where it is leading . . . fast.

For instance, today, Russia CLOSED the northern sea route.  This just crushed trade between Europe and Asia because ships can no longer travel along Russia's northern coastline to Asia.  Russia explicitly stated this closure is due to NATO activities!  The Red Line on the image below shows what is now closed:

Full Article Click Here

You don't mention, that the "Cuban missile" crisis actually was no "Cuban" missile crisis. The missiles the Soviets were shipping to Cuba were already an answer to the US missiles on the territory of the NATO member Turkey at the Caucasus mountains. Kennedy moved these missiles back and then the Soviets removed theirs from Cuba. Tit for tat. But back then in these days, nobody was talking about the Caucasus missiles, only about the Cuban missiles.
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Post by Böhse Tante Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:22 pm

https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2021/reuters-fluechtlinge-werden-nicht-geimpft-weil-die-arzneimittelhersteller-klagen-fuerchten/?doing_wp_cron=1639829562.6830561161041259765625

"Reuters: Refugees won't be vaccinated because drugmakers fear lawsuits.

Manufacturers of the supposedly safe mRNA vaccines are refusing to vaccinate refugees because they fear lawsuits over side effects.

..."

https://www.reuters.com/world/refugees-lack-covid-shots-because-drugmakers-fear-lawsuits-documents-2021-12-16/

With more links in the text.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by Böhse Tante Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:52 pm

Zambeezi wrote:
Abacus wrote:Kidnapping of Aldo Moro

It was the first time since 1947 that Italian Communists had a government position, even if indirect.
The success of the action would thus halt the Communists' rise to Italian state institutions,
reassuring the BR as a key point in a future revolutionary war against capitalism.

During the days of Moro's imprisonment journalist Carmine Pecorelli (see also below) wrote, in his magazine Osservatorio politico,
an article entitled "Vergogna, buffoni!" ("Shame on you, clowns!"): in it he wrote that Giulio Andreotti had met general Dalla Chiesa
who told the politician that he knew the location where Moro was kept, but did not obtain the authorization to proceed to free him
due to (in Pecorelli's words) a certain "Christ's lodge in paradise".
The likely allusion to P2 became clear only after the discovery of a list of the lodge members on 17 March 1981.

Members of the lodge occupied important institutional positions and included: Giuseppe Santovito, director of SISMI;
prefect Walter Pelosi, director of CESIS; general Giulio Grassini of SISDE; admiral Antonino Geraci, commander of SIOS;
Federico Umberto D'Amato, director of the Office of Reserved Affairs of the Ministry of the Interiors;
generals Raffaele Giudice and Donato Lo Prete, respectively commander and chief-of-staff of the Guardia di Finanza;
and Carabinieri general Giuseppe Siracusano, responsible for road blocks in the capital during the investigations of the Moro affair.

On 16 March 1978, the day of Moro's kidnapping, the most important members of P2
met in the Hotel Excelsior in Rome—a few hundred meters from the United States Embassy.
While exiting the hotel Gelli declared "the most difficult part is done".
It was supposed that his words referred to the abduction of Moro.

In 2005 Giovanni Galloni, former national vice-secretary of Christian Democracy, said that during a discussion with Moro about the difficulty to find the Red Brigades' bases
Moro told him that he knew of the presence of US and Israeli intelligence agents infiltrated within the BR.
However the information obtained was not given to the Italian investigators.
He also declared that the reason of the assassination of journalist Carmine Pecorelli was the same information, perhaps coming from the United States.

During the 1983 trial against the BR Moro's widow, Eleonora Chiavarelli, declared that her husband was unpopular in the United States due to the historic compromise matter,
and that he had been repeatedly warned by American politicians to stop disrupting the political situation which had been established in the Yalta conference
(in reference to the possible executive role of the Italian Communist Party). According to her Henry Kissinger was one of the American personalities who menaced Moro in 1974 and 1976.
She said that the words to Moro which he repeated to her were:

   ... you have to put an end to your political plan of mustering all the forces in your country to collaborate directly.
Here, or you stop doing this thing, or you will be badly punished.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Aldo_Moro


.

That "documentary" puts one lie after the other.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by Zambeezi Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:13 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:
Abacus wrote:Kidnapping of Aldo Moro

It was the first time since 1947 that Italian Communists had a government position, even if indirect.
The success of the action would thus halt the Communists' rise to Italian state institutions,
reassuring the BR as a key point in a future revolutionary war against capitalism.

During the days of Moro's imprisonment journalist Carmine Pecorelli (see also below) wrote, in his magazine Osservatorio politico,
an article entitled "Vergogna, buffoni!" ("Shame on you, clowns!"): in it he wrote that Giulio Andreotti had met general Dalla Chiesa
who told the politician that he knew the location where Moro was kept, but did not obtain the authorization to proceed to free him
due to (in Pecorelli's words) a certain "Christ's lodge in paradise".
The likely allusion to P2 became clear only after the discovery of a list of the lodge members on 17 March 1981.

Members of the lodge occupied important institutional positions and included: Giuseppe Santovito, director of SISMI;
prefect Walter Pelosi, director of CESIS; general Giulio Grassini of SISDE; admiral Antonino Geraci, commander of SIOS;
Federico Umberto D'Amato, director of the Office of Reserved Affairs of the Ministry of the Interiors;
generals Raffaele Giudice and Donato Lo Prete, respectively commander and chief-of-staff of the Guardia di Finanza;
and Carabinieri general Giuseppe Siracusano, responsible for road blocks in the capital during the investigations of the Moro affair.

On 16 March 1978, the day of Moro's kidnapping, the most important members of P2
met in the Hotel Excelsior in Rome—a few hundred meters from the United States Embassy.
While exiting the hotel Gelli declared "the most difficult part is done".
It was supposed that his words referred to the abduction of Moro.

In 2005 Giovanni Galloni, former national vice-secretary of Christian Democracy, said that during a discussion with Moro about the difficulty to find the Red Brigades' bases
Moro told him that he knew of the presence of US and Israeli intelligence agents infiltrated within the BR.
However the information obtained was not given to the Italian investigators.
He also declared that the reason of the assassination of journalist Carmine Pecorelli was the same information, perhaps coming from the United States.

During the 1983 trial against the BR Moro's widow, Eleonora Chiavarelli, declared that her husband was unpopular in the United States due to the historic compromise matter,
and that he had been repeatedly warned by American politicians to stop disrupting the political situation which had been established in the Yalta conference
(in reference to the possible executive role of the Italian Communist Party). According to her Henry Kissinger was one of the American personalities who menaced Moro in 1974 and 1976.
She said that the words to Moro which he repeated to her were:

   ... you have to put an end to your political plan of mustering all the forces in your country to collaborate directly.
Here, or you stop doing this thing, or you will be badly punished.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Aldo_Moro
That "documentary" puts one lie after the other.
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eeyup... all lies.

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Post by Böhse Tante Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:17 pm

Unfortunately the author "elbmolch115" is not so good in English, but I found this short summary too important to leave it only in the German section:

Hey bT, just received it.
It's clear that the shotgun pussy (Ursula von der Leyen) is playing dumb.
=========
Heiko von der Leyen) has been ... medical director of the American biopharma company Orgenesis Inc. since 2020; a company that - what a miracle - is also working on cell-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines."

Conflict of interest? But there's more: the bio-lab in Wuhan is owned by GlaxoSmithKline, which owns Pfizer! Wuhan was co-funded by Dr Fauci, who is campaigning for vaccination coverage in the US.
GlaxoSmithKline is managed by Black Rock, which manages the finances of the Soros Foundation's Open Foundation Company....

Soros owns the German company Winterthur, which built a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan and was bought by the German Allianz, which has Vanguard as a shareholder, which is a shareholder in Black Rock, which controls central banks and manages about a third of the world's investment capital. "Black Rock" is also a major shareholder in MICROSOFT, which is owned by Bill Gates, who in turn is a shareholder in Pfizer and a major sponsor of WHO! Is this conspiracy or conspiracy theory?
=============
A uniquely corrupt system.

...........................

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by Zambeezi Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:22 pm

ShockJock wrote:It grieves me to have to report to the public that we are in danger.  The situation between the US/EU/NATO and RUSSIA over Ukraine is escalating beyond all reason.  Actual steps are now being actively taken which, if not stopped, WILL lead to nuclear war; perhaps before Christmas.

Normally, archives of my radio show are for paying subscribers only.  THIS is just too important to keep behind a paywall.

For the good of my fellow Americans, and for decent, peace-loving people everywhere, I offer Friday night's one-hour radio show -- FREE.

Only the first 37 minutes are essential to hear.

It lays out the situation.  How we got here.  Who is doing what.  And where it is leading . . . fast.

For instance, today, Russia CLOSED the northern sea route.  This just crushed trade between Europe and Asia because ships can no longer travel along Russia's northern coastline to Asia.  Russia explicitly stated this closure is due to NATO activities!  The Red Line on the image below shows what is now closed:

Full Article Click Here

Just days ago, I remember reading that some 14 Russian vessels
were in need of rescue by Russian icebreakers having been 'trapped'/frozen by an early freeze...
effectively shutting down the Northern Sea Route (which happens every year.)
Please provide a Russian government media sourced article that backs your claim. Thanks.

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Post by Mr Badger Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:33 pm

Zambeezi wrote:
ShockJock wrote:It grieves me to have to report to the public that we are in danger.  The situation between the US/EU/NATO and RUSSIA over Ukraine is escalating beyond all reason.  Actual steps are now being actively taken which, if not stopped, WILL lead to nuclear war; perhaps before Christmas.

Normally, archives of my radio show are for paying subscribers only.  THIS is just too important to keep behind a paywall.

For the good of my fellow Americans, and for decent, peace-loving people everywhere, I offer Friday night's one-hour radio show -- FREE.

Only the first 37 minutes are essential to hear.

It lays out the situation.  How we got here.  Who is doing what.  And where it is leading . . . fast.

For instance, today, Russia CLOSED the northern sea route.  This just crushed trade between Europe and Asia because ships can no longer travel along Russia's northern coastline to Asia.  Russia explicitly stated this closure is due to NATO activities!  The Red Line on the image below shows what is now closed:

Full Article Click Here

Just days ago, I remember reading that some 14 Russian vessels
were in need of rescue by Russian icebreakers having been 'trapped'/frozen by an early freeze...
effectively shutting down the Northern Sea Route (which happens every year.)
Please provide a Russian government media sourced article that backs your claim. Thanks.

I've been looking too and all I could find was this:

Moscow eyes ban on foreign ships carrying Russian fuel via Northern Sea Route -report
CONTRIBUTOR
Gleb Stolyarov  Reuters
PUBLISHED
DEC 7, 2021 3:37AM EST
Russia is considering banning foreign vessels from shipping Russian energy cargoes via the Northern Sea Route, as well as from icebreaking and coastal navigation, the Kommersant newspaper reported on Tuesday citing a draft government resolution.

MOSCOW, Dec 7 (Reuters) - Russia is considering banning foreign vessels from shipping Russian energy cargoes via the Northern Sea Route, as well as from icebreaking and coastal navigation, the Kommersant newspaper reported on Tuesday citing a draft government resolution.

The step, proposed by the Industry and Trade Ministry, would restrict vessels built outside Russia on the Northern Sea Route that Moscow wants to become a major shipping lane as the Arctic warms at a faster rate than the rest of the world.

The ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Kommersant reported that the ministry on Nov. 1 drew up a draft list of activities that only Russian-built vessels would be able to undertake on the shipping lane.

The activities included transporting Russian-produced oil, gas, gas condensate and coal along the route, as well as icebreaking services, hydrotechnical and underwater engineering work, it said.

The draft ban that could enter force on March 1 for most of the activities is opposed by some in government who fear Russian-made vessels and Russian shipyards might not be able to cope with a sudden switch, the paper said.

Russia hopes the shipping lane across its northern flank, which would shorten the distance between China and Europe, will begin year-round shipping in 2022 or 2023.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/moscow-eyes-ban-on-foreign-ships-carrying-russian-fuel-via-northern-sea-route-report

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Post by Zambeezi Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:43 pm

https://www.bitchute.com/video/a8mUUMkecQEn/
German health minister injecting kids with the vaccine himself

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Post by Böhse Tante Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:38 pm

Zambeezi wrote:https://www.bitchute.com/video/a8mUUMkecQEn/
German health minister injecting kids with the vaccine himself

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Yes, he managed ( Exclamation Question Suspect ) to get his approbation at some point, but he never practised as a doctor.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by boris Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:04 pm

Live Now!


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Post by boris Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:05 pm

Live here too

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Post by boris Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:06 pm

Do TPTB know they are almost out of chances?
The game is up.

Mass protest world wide. This is the hugest mass movement ever.

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Post by boris Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:15 pm

“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

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Post by Zambeezi Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:20 pm

6th Circuit Court reverses 5th Circuit Court decision. Biden mandate back in force.
https://twitter.com/search?q=6th%20circuit%20court&f=live



https://archive.md/wip/Gyy6I
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/appeals-court-allows-biden-private-business-covid-19-vax-mandate-take-effect

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