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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:14 pm
M9872367 wrote:The females' parents both work and/or have security clearance at the high security RAF Boscombe Down, neighbouring site of Porton Down:
"Police fear missing Novichok 'syringe' that left couple fighting for life could have been 'carried off by a child' as they admit they have no idea where it is - as authorities FINALLY evacuate homes"
Or it could have been a cigarretethat attempted assassin was casually smoking, with contaminated hands, that survived in all weathers for 4 month.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5919211/Amesbury-couple-exposed-Novichok-poison-fight-lives.html
All of this is entirely unfuckingbelievable and it almost looks like they have no freaking idea what the fuck is going on. Or they are just failing to keep all their lies togethere, even for a few days.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by UK AC Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:27 pm
Breaking - UK government releases irrefutable proof of Russian involvement in Salisbury
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 pm
UK AC wrote:Breaking - UK government releases irrefutable proof of Russian involvement in Salisbury
- Spoiler:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by UK AC Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:36 am
@georgegalloway
22m22 minutes ago
The Russian scientist who invented #Novichok says the #Skripal batch could not have lasted this long. Degrades fast he says. Ergo: #Russia RETURNED with more in the middle of the World Cup to “sow confusion” in Britain. If you believe that you’re a fucking idiot. That’s all.
22m22 minutes ago
The Russian scientist who invented #Novichok says the #Skripal batch could not have lasted this long. Degrades fast he says. Ergo: #Russia RETURNED with more in the middle of the World Cup to “sow confusion” in Britain. If you believe that you’re a fucking idiot. That’s all.
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by UK AC Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:51 am
@AudreyAurus1
3h3 hours ago
Syringe or not, Novichok is supposed to degrade at a very fast rate...So the chances of them being poisoned with the same Novichok than the Skripal are 0. Now the question is..Bad batch of heroin as previously stated or security breach at Porton Down?
3h3 hours ago
Syringe or not, Novichok is supposed to degrade at a very fast rate...So the chances of them being poisoned with the same Novichok than the Skripal are 0. Now the question is..Bad batch of heroin as previously stated or security breach at Porton Down?
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by FoShizzle Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:55 am
The desperation is palpable. I cannot believe
#1 - that they're trying this AGAIN
#2 - people are falling for this stupidity
Of course, Putin's passport at the site helped them determine it was Russia!
#1 - that they're trying this AGAIN
#2 - people are falling for this stupidity
Of course, Putin's passport at the site helped them determine it was Russia!
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by FoShizzle Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:56 am
UK AC wrote:@georgegalloway
22m22 minutes ago
The Russian scientist who invented #Novichok says the #Skripal batch could not have lasted this long. Degrades fast he says. Ergo: #Russia RETURNED with more in the middle of the World Cup to “sow confusion” in Britain. If you believe that you’re a fucking idiot. That’s all.
What a load of stupidity!
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:15 am
FoShizzle wrote:The desperation is palpable. I cannot believe
#1 - that they're trying this AGAIN
#2 - people are falling for this stupidity
Of course, Putin's passport at the site helped them determine it was Russia!
All of this is like Austin Powers parody...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:53 pm
UK AC wrote:
@AudreyAurus1
3h3 hours ago
Syringe or not, Novichok is supposed to degrade at a very fast rate...So the chances of them being poisoned with the same Novichok than the Skripal are 0. Now the question is..Bad batch of heroin as previously stated or security breach at Porton Down?
The guy who worked on its development for 15 years says it will absord into any soft substance like a tree or a bench and remain potent for years, waiting for someone to touch and be transferred and also that people are right to panic.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/novichok-inventor-amesbury-poisoning-salisbury-russia-vladimir-uglev-a8432876.html
All this was discussed 4 months ago. He also said that the smallest imaginable contamination can take years to develop serious health consequences and 100's may already be affected, without yet knowing.
Another person who spoke out about it a few weeks ago suffered a mysterious car crash in Russia.
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:01 pm
M9872367 wrote:UK AC wrote:
@AudreyAurus1
3h3 hours ago
Syringe or not, Novichok is supposed to degrade at a very fast rate...So the chances of them being poisoned with the same Novichok than the Skripal are 0. Now the question is..Bad batch of heroin as previously stated or security breach at Porton Down?
The guy who worked on its development for 15 years says it will absord into any soft substance like a tree or a bench and remain potent for years, waiting for someone to touch and be transferred and also that people are right to panic.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/novichok-inventor-amesbury-poisoning-salisbury-russia-vladimir-uglev-a8432876.html
All this was discussed 4 months ago. He also said that the smallest imaginable contamination can take years to develop serious health consequences and 100's may already be affected, without yet knowing.
Another person who spoke out about it a few weeks ago suffered a mysterious car crash in Russia.
Well, Czech experts said something completely different. Foliant agents are very unstable, decline very fast.
https://www.novinky.cz/domaci/473216-odmorovani-novicoku-bylo-jen-divadlo-rika-chemicky-expert.html
He literally says that the whole decontamination process was nothing but theatre for wide aoudience.
Another security expert with years of experience says the same, doesn't trust the British version, claims that there is no way Skripal's would be able to sruvive if really Foliant agent deployed:
http://www.reflex.cz/clanek/video/87171/bezpecnostni-expert-sandor-neni-to-boj-dobra-a-zla-skripal-mel-byt-mrtvy-britske-verzi-neverim.html
Overall, the guy, who defected to the other side and handed over military secrets, is not very reliable source of informations imho. As every traitor, he gonna say anything...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:12 pm
Moreover, I found this, regarding ongoing Amesbury situation:
Chemical weapons expert Richard Guthrie said it was possible that the couple came across the Novichok which poisoned the Skripals after it had been disposed of "in a haphazard way".
However, Vil Mirzayanov, the Russian scientist who first exposed the Novichok programme, cast doubt on the theory, saying Novichok would have decomposed in the four months since the Skripal attack.
He told the BBC this must have been a separate incident because Novichok was unstable, especially in damp conditions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44719639
Chemical weapons expert Richard Guthrie said it was possible that the couple came across the Novichok which poisoned the Skripals after it had been disposed of "in a haphazard way".
However, Vil Mirzayanov, the Russian scientist who first exposed the Novichok programme, cast doubt on the theory, saying Novichok would have decomposed in the four months since the Skripal attack.
He told the BBC this must have been a separate incident because Novichok was unstable, especially in damp conditions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44719639
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by Libertine Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:47 pm
Jesus..I've got a bad feeling about this. Even if it all turns out to be much ado about nothing, which is what I hope for. I'm having a 12 monkeys flashback moment just from speed browsing this topic. Definitely need to read from beginning to end after work. In the meantime,...
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:06 pm
Libertine wrote:Jesus..I've got a bad feeling about this. Even if it all turns out to be much ado about nothing, which is what I hope for. I'm having a 12 monkeys flashback moment just from speed browsing this topic. Definitely need to read from beginning to end after work. In the meantime,...
Makes you wonder how many people have already died from this and put down to other causes, like the "bad batch" of drugs supposedly going around at the moment, in the area. Once someone is confirmed dead in the UK from a WMD attack, it ratchets up another level.
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by Libertine Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:21 pm
M9872367 wrote:Libertine wrote:Jesus..I've got a bad feeling about this. Even if it all turns out to be much ado about nothing, which is what I hope for. I'm having a 12 monkeys flashback moment just from speed browsing this topic. Definitely need to read from beginning to end after work. In the meantime,...
Makes you wonder how many people have already died from this and put down to other causes, like the "bad batch" of drugs supposedly going around at the moment, in the area. Once someone is confirmed dead in the UK from a WMD attack, it ratchets up another level.
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:29 pm
4 March 2018, Skripals were poisoned in Salisbury.
14 March 2018, 23 year old male suddenly dies in John Baker House, Salisbury, with no explanation given by the police.
5 July 2018, John Baker House, Salisbury is evacuated, where Dawn Sturges lived.
Latest statement, police activity could go on for months.
14 March 2018, 23 year old male suddenly dies in John Baker House, Salisbury, with no explanation given by the police.
5 July 2018, John Baker House, Salisbury is evacuated, where Dawn Sturges lived.
Latest statement, police activity could go on for months.
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:16 pm
UK on high alert with concrete intelligence of a critical attack or assassination in the UK from a hostile state, immediately after the World Cup final, with President Trump set to visit just days later. "There is a "serious" threat on the horizon and that critical utilities like water or power supplies will be targetted."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6709686/uk-cyber-war-russia-putin-world-cup-2018/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6709686/uk-cyber-war-russia-putin-world-cup-2018/
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:19 pm
M9872367 wrote:UK on high alert with concrete intelligence of a critical attack or assassination in the UK from a hostile state, immediately after the World Cup final, with President Trump set to visit just days later. "There is a "serious" threat on the horizon and that critical utilities like water or power supplies will be targetted."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6709686/uk-cyber-war-russia-putin-world-cup-2018/
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:21 pm
Here is the times report that the sun reported on but most people won't be registered, so I gave the tabloid version.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spies-on-alert-over-serious-threat-of-russian-attack-z7t5hndhc
3 COBRA meetings in 2 days
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spies-on-alert-over-serious-threat-of-russian-attack-z7t5hndhc
3 COBRA meetings in 2 days
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:59 am
Just in the case (as it spread to continental Europe):
UK AC wrote:Supermarkets have recalled bags of frozen vegetables over fears they could contain a deadly bacteria. (Listeria)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-44739472
The UK is one of five European countries affected by the outbreak, The Mirror reports .
Nine people are believed to have died as a result of catching the disease, according to the European Food Safety Authority .
The FSA has issued a huge list of 43 frozen food items - many sold across the big supermarket chains - that are all being withdrawn from sale.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/deadly-listeria-outbreak-sees-uk-12862408
Myself, friends, family were eating one of these affected vegetables packets only the other day...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:00 am
Two things just emereged here: FSA? Like Free Syrian Army?
And the other thing: You damned, you brought it to my country, too!
Possible Listeria infication in frozen food items:
https://www.novinky.cz/domaci/477144-z-ceskych-obchodu-se-stahuje-mrazena-zelenina-iglo-muze-obsahovat-bakterie-listerie.html
And the other thing: You damned, you brought it to my country, too!
Possible Listeria infication in frozen food items:
https://www.novinky.cz/domaci/477144-z-ceskych-obchodu-se-stahuje-mrazena-zelenina-iglo-muze-obsahovat-bakterie-listerie.html
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:00 am
UK AC wrote:Zod wrote:Two things just emereged here: FSA? Like Free Syrian Army?
And the other thing: You damned, you brought it to my country, too!
Possible Listeria infication in frozen food items:
https://www.novinky.cz/domaci/477144-z-ceskych-obchodu-se-stahuje-mrazena-zelenina-iglo-muze-obsahovat-bakterie-listerie.html
Iglo... is a UK company so I read.
Looks like this outbreak could be limited to the UK food companies then, but not sure. If so, I never realised the UK food products sector was quite so large to a) provide their products to many other countries on the continent, b) be using Hungary's land to grow these foodstuffs.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:06 pm
Homeless person died a week ago in Salisbury park where Dawn and Charlie were and is now cordoned off. Police put it down to drugs but people were reporting symptoms similiar to Novichok and are calling for an investigation. Homeless people are now reporting that all their pitches are now no-go areas cordoned off by the police.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/novichok-poisoning-salisbury-in-fear-as-invisible-killer-emerges-again/news-story/b6727fd799fc883e4c7f528414d5fcb5
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/novichok-poisoning-salisbury-in-fear-as-invisible-killer-emerges-again/news-story/b6727fd799fc883e4c7f528414d5fcb5
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:44 pm
M9872367 wrote:Homeless person died a week ago in Salisbury park where Dawn and Charlie were and is now cordoned off. Police put it down to drugs but people were reporting symptoms similiar to Novichok and are calling for an investigation. Homeless people are now reporting that all their pitches are now no-go areas cordoned off by the police.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/novichok-poisoning-salisbury-in-fear-as-invisible-killer-emerges-again/news-story/b6727fd799fc883e4c7f528414d5fcb5
This reminded me that they promissed many exhumations after the Skkripal icident, to veryfy the circumstances of deaths. Didn't hear anything further about it later...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:11 pm
Dawn "close to death" as family claim they are treated like second class citizens:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6719238/salisbury-novichok-victim-dawn-sturgess-amesbury-poisoned-nerve-agent-skripals/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6719238/salisbury-novichok-victim-dawn-sturgess-amesbury-poisoned-nerve-agent-skripals/
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:58 pm
Conflict News
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BREAKING: A police officer is in hospital amid concerns of a possible exposure to the nerve agent Novichok, sources say - @PA
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BREAKING: A police officer is in hospital amid concerns of a possible exposure to the nerve agent Novichok, sources say - @PA
:hazmatalarm: :hazmatalarm: :hazmatalarm:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by KneelB4Zod! Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:58 pm
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MORE: The officer, believed to be with Wiltshire Police, is being treated at Salisbury District Hospital, a short distance from Amesbury where Dawn Sturgess, 44, and her partner, Charlie Rowley, 45, fell ill last Saturday - @PA
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MORE: The officer, believed to be with Wiltshire Police, is being treated at Salisbury District Hospital, a short distance from Amesbury where Dawn Sturgess, 44, and her partner, Charlie Rowley, 45, fell ill last Saturday - @PA
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:05 pm
I bet he or she doesn't get "treated like" a second class citizen.
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:09 pm
Initially went to a Swindon hospital (which is now on lockdown) an hour away but moved to Salisbury.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/714943/swindon-nerve-agent-poisoning-police-officer-suspected-symptoms
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/714943/swindon-nerve-agent-poisoning-police-officer-suspected-symptoms
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Re: Amesbury/Salisbury incident
by M9872367 Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:12 pm
So the area of contamination now spreads nearly 50 miles, at minimum !!
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