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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:46 pm
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- Sayed Hasan Nasrallah's speech tomorrow was cancelled and no new date was given in the light of what happened today.
IDF northern command can take some break I guess, Hezbullah won't act anytime soon now.
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- Sayed Hasan Nasrallah's speech tomorrow was cancelled and no new date was given in the light of what happened today.
IDF northern command can take some break I guess, Hezbullah won't act anytime soon now.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:56 pm
- Due to the explosion that rocked Beirut Port today, one of our Maritime Task Force ships was damaged, leaving some naval peacekeepers injured. UNIFIL is assessing the situation & stands ready to provide assistance & support to the Lebanese Government.
—https://t.co/VLSoD1Qph6
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:59 pm
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- Syrian president just called Aoun.
- Yemenese (Sanaa government) just issued a statement of condolences.
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- Syrian president just called Aoun.
- Yemenese (Sanaa government) just issued a statement of condolences.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:00 pm
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by guest2 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:00 pm
SAUDI ARABIA SAYS FOLLOWING WITH GREAT CONCERN BEIRUT'S EXPLOSION CONSEQUENCES - STATE NEWS AGENCY
— Breaking Market News (@breakingmkts) August 4, 2020
SAUDI FOREIGN MINISTRY AFFIRMS THE KINGDOM'S FULL SUPPORT AND SOLIDARITY WITH THE BROTHERLY LEBANESE PEOPLE - STATE NEWS AGENCY
— First Squawk (@FirstSquawk) August 4, 2020
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:01 pm
The Lebanese health minister says more than 50 killed, nearly 3,000 injured in #Beirutblast.#BeirutExplosion #Lebanon
— nonouzi (@Gerrrty) August 4, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:04 pm
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#BREAKING #Egypt has decided to withdraw from the latest round of tripartite negotiations with Ethiopia on its dam on the Blue Nile for internal consultations.
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More: Sudan's irrigation ministry said the latest Ethiopian position presented in talks on Aug. 4 raised new fears over the track the negotiations had been on
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#BREAKING #Egypt has decided to withdraw from the latest round of tripartite negotiations with Ethiopia on its dam on the Blue Nile for internal consultations.
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More: Sudan's irrigation ministry said the latest Ethiopian position presented in talks on Aug. 4 raised new fears over the track the negotiations had been on
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by shachalnur Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:21 pm
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might be connected to blast in lebanon.
https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/06/11/how-ukrainian-oligarchs-secretly-became-the-largest-real-estate-owners-in-downtown-cleveland
fbi was raiding offices in cleveland,this morning ,ukranian oligarchs.
this morining two ships from ukraine sailed into beirut ,very close to place of blast.
all coinkidinki.
kolomoisky and gannadi bogolyubov are both jews and one has israeli pasport.
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might be connected to blast in lebanon.
https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/06/11/how-ukrainian-oligarchs-secretly-became-the-largest-real-estate-owners-in-downtown-cleveland
fbi was raiding offices in cleveland,this morning ,ukranian oligarchs.
this morining two ships from ukraine sailed into beirut ,very close to place of blast.
all coinkidinki.
kolomoisky and gannadi bogolyubov are both jews and one has israeli pasport.
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:21 pm
Smoke from #Beirut explosion reaching border with #Syriapic.twitter.com/StOGCdtNGH
— Aldin(@aldin_ww) August 4, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by guest2 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:22 pm
LBCI: Preliminary information from security sources "speak of 2700 tons of seized ammonium in Beirut Port exploded in course of welding small opening to prevent theft." https://t.co/afh6cOsHZK
— David A. Daoud (@DavidADaoud) August 4, 2020
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:25 pm
VIDEO # 68 from Beirut, Lebanon: pic.twitter.com/oeho5YKaSq
— FJ (@Natsecjeff) August 4, 2020
There are numerous videos in this thread:
https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1290742115367038977
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:29 pm
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Lebanon :
The Director General of the EDL, Kamal Hayek, was seriously wounded as a result of the explosion and at least two people were killed in the building of the institution.
Serious damage in the parliament building.
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Lebanon :
The Director General of the EDL, Kamal Hayek, was seriously wounded as a result of the explosion and at least two people were killed in the building of the institution.
Serious damage in the parliament building.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by guest2 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:29 pm
An audio message from the wife of an official (private WhatsApp group) claims the blast was due to 'utter negligence'.
— Riam Dalati (@Dalatrm) August 4, 2020
Ammonium Nitrate was 'salvaged from a sinking ship' about 12 years ago and stored at 'Hangar 12, one of #Beirut harbour's biggest'.
She quotes her husband as having told her what the health and safety report said at the time.
— Riam Dalati (@Dalatrm) August 4, 2020
Unfortunately, our entire harbour is on fire, so I don't think an independent verification can authenticate the ongoing NaNo3 salvage narrative.
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:30 pm
BEIRUT - During a Christian ceremony the debris fell on the priest pic.twitter.com/AG1nciRJQB
— Ali Özkök (@Ozkok_A) August 4, 2020
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:31 pm
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Lebanese MOH: Number of martyrs now is 63+, with 3,600 injuries ranging between light and serious.
Many people died from car crashes, bodies are unidentifiable.
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Lebanese MOH: Number of martyrs now is 63+, with 3,600 injuries ranging between light and serious.
Many people died from car crashes, bodies are unidentifiable.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by shachalnur Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:32 pm
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https://twitter.com/NYPDCT/status/1290696239915433985
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and this in cleveland:
https://twitter.com/TheSharpEdge1/status/1290721765946093568
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https://twitter.com/NYPDCT/status/1290696239915433985
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and this in cleveland:
https://twitter.com/TheSharpEdge1/status/1290721765946093568
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:35 pm
guest2 wrote:An audio message from the wife of an official (private WhatsApp group) claims the blast was due to 'utter negligence'.
— Riam Dalati (@Dalatrm) August 4, 2020
Ammonium Nitrate was 'salvaged from a sinking ship' about 12 years ago and stored at 'Hangar 12, one of #Beirut harbour's biggest'.She quotes her husband as having told her what the health and safety report said at the time.
— Riam Dalati (@Dalatrm) August 4, 2020
Unfortunately, our entire harbour is on fire, so I don't think an independent verification can authenticate the ongoing NaNo3 salvage narrative.
I would scratch direct military attack. But it can't be ruled out that the site was a subject of sabotage. I read some crazy reports, likely BS, that ISIS takes responsibility for the explosion...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by KneelB4Zod! Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:36 pm
shachalnur wrote:.
https://twitter.com/NYPDCT/status/1290696239915433985
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Indeed, wtf?
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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by guest2 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:36 pm
shachalnur wrote:.
https://twitter.com/NYPDCT/status/1290696239915433985
????
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by Böhse Tante Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:37 pm
KneelB4Zod! wrote:It was like a nuke...
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Jordanian Seismological Observatory: Beirut explosion is equivalent to a magnitude 4.5 quake on Richter
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There was one registered, depth "0"!
Magnitude ML 3.3
Region LEBANON - SYRIA REGION
Date time 2020-08-04 15:08:18.0 UTC
Location 33.90 N ; 35.52 E
Depth 0 km
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by guest2 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:46 pm
KneelB4Zod! wrote:I would scratch direct military attack. But it can't be ruled out that the site was a subject of sabotage. I read some crazy reports, likely BS, that ISIS takes responsibility for the explosion...
Not sure if the fireworks is still being considered as part of the timeline of events but I remember reading early on the health minister said there was a ship that came to port that had the fireworks on. So if the fireworks is still part of this prior to the ammonium nitrate explosion then yeah that is suspicious as hell.
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by guest2 Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:53 pm
Scene from downtown #Beirut to port area where explosion took place. Totally devastation. #Lebanon pic.twitter.com/ghhf5in39M
— Zein Ja'far (@skyzein) August 4, 2020
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by shachalnur Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:16 pm
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yesterday lebanon foreign minister resigned claiming 'the boat may sink'
that was yesterday
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lebanese-foreign-minister-hitti-resigns-warns-boat-may-sink/ar-BB17v2sX
remember the ukranian boats that arrived today in beirut and the raids on two ukrainian .israeli billionaires in cleveland?
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yesterday lebanon foreign minister resigned claiming 'the boat may sink'
that was yesterday
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lebanese-foreign-minister-hitti-resigns-warns-boat-may-sink/ar-BB17v2sX
remember the ukranian boats that arrived today in beirut and the raids on two ukrainian .israeli billionaires in cleveland?
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by Guest 12 Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:29 am
Orange idiot at press conference says his generals claim explosion was attack and not accident.
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by Talos Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:56 am
Conspiracy theories saying Hezbollah did the attack to either take attention from the Harriri verdict tommorow or in order to allow massive aid in to Lebanon thus breaking the Ceaser sanctions.
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by Mr Badger Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:01 am
OT but for those interested, SpaceX SN5 just completed successful 150m hop.
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by Talos Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:08 am
Beirut Governor: Half of the city was destroyed by the explosion
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by Talos Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:12 am
A video of what looks like a drone or airstrike in Beirut explosion
https://mobile.twitter.com/UpdatesLebanese/status/1290817152946143232
https://mobile.twitter.com/UpdatesLebanese/status/1290817152946143232
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by Talos Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:15 am
The plot thickens somebody used their technical skills to freeze the moment a missile is about to hit before the second explosion.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Josef1601/status/1290817972907450369/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/Josef1601/status/1290817972907450369/photo/1
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Re: #58 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe
by Talos Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:45 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/AWjamalfc/status/1290750720787058690
A missile seems to drop from the sky moments before the 2nd blast for sure
A missile seems to drop from the sky moments before the 2nd blast for sure
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