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Brazil. Almost 100 Officers Publish Letter Warning Of Civil War https://southfront.org/brazil-almost-100-officers-publish-letter-warning-of-civil-war/


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#Turkey leading search campaign for Saif Al-Islam #Gaddafi: report https://is.gd/SiUdau #Libya

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Wed May 27, 2020 2:01 am

This is fucking farce!

Covid-19 WAS NOT the cause of death in 60 percent of reported victims in the Czech Republic

https://www.novinky.cz/koronavirus/clanek/covid-19-nebyl-v-cesku-pricinou-umrti-u-60-procent-obeti-40325450#seq_no=1&source=hp&dop_ab_variant=0&dop_req_id=FkGpqX070nV-202005261549&dop_source_zone_name=novinky.sznhp.box&utm_source=www.seznam.cz&utm_medium=z-boxiku&utm_campaign=

Officially we have now 317 victims. It means 190 of them did not die of Covid-19...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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JUST IN: Russia Says Its Building First Stealth Bomber

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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BREAKING: #Pentagon official says Chinese fighter jets “harassed” U.S. aircraft 'at least 9 times' in the area of South China Sea since March. US responds by flying a pair of U.S. B-1 supersonic bombers over South China Sea— today. #China #USA

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Wed May 27, 2020 2:18 am

It looks like Russia means business in Libya...


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by Zambeezi Wed May 27, 2020 3:00 am

US threatens to “disconnect” Australia if it strays from conflict with China
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Amid an escalating propaganda barrage by the corporate media and political establishment against China, accusing it of trying to “bully” Australia over trade issues, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued a blunt threat on Sunday.
The US would “simply disconnect” Australia from its telecommunications, military and intelligence networks if any Australian government made an agreement with China deemed to endanger US “national security,” he declared.

Pompeo delivered Washington’s warning in an interview on the Murdoch media’s Sky News channel, thus making explicit and public the kind of threats that are usually made behind closed doors.


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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#BREAKING Russia President #Putin says Victory Day will be held on June 24



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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by 刘汉 Wed May 27, 2020 5:28 am

boris wrote:
what a dollar buys in Hong Kong is not the same as what a dollar buys in China.
It is all relative.

With 500 Euros per month I could not survive in Europe (so this is definitely no middle class, this is poverty), but with 1000 $ in mainland China I can lead a great live and save 50% or more. In Hongkong I could not even rent a room. I would never go there.

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Post by 刘汉 Wed May 27, 2020 6:36 am

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Normally the Chinese make a sport out of this. They know perfectly well, that the Indians have their troops in Kashmir proper and have to bring them over the mountains into Ladakh and then up the glacier. Till the Indians arrive at the point on the glacier, where the Chinese were located, they are gone. The problem is, that Kashmir occupied the Tibetan Ladakh, then the British occupied Kashmir and then the British left India. So there is no clear line between India and China.




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Urgent The Syrian Official News Agency: 3 American soldiers were killed and wounded in an attack carried out by Iraqi Hezbollah on an American convoy in Deir Al-Zour countryside
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Everyone's lost their fucking minds. Clapping like trained sealions for the NHS every Thursday FFS. Somebody help me get off this fucking island.

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Post by Böhse Tante Wed May 27, 2020 7:36 am

KneelB4Zod! wrote:Agent sounded alarm over islamist, who killed 12 people in Berlin, for about one year prior the attack. Unsuccessfuly...

https://www.novinky.cz/zahranicni/clanek/agent-rok-marne-varoval-pred-islamistou-ktery-v-berline-zabil-12-lidi-40324690#seq_no=4&source=hp&dop_ab_variant=311810&dop_req_id=UhM9UXIOSaF-202005211817&dop_source_zone_name=novinky.sznhp.box&utm_source=www.seznam.cz&utm_medium=z-boxiku&utm_campaign=


That about Amri is a highly suspicious case. It's even doubtful that he was the driver. That case consists of several piles of BS.

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Agent sounded alarm over islamist, who killed 12 people in Berlin, for about one year prior the attack. Unsuccessfuly...

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That about Amri is a highly suspicious case. It's even doubtful that he was the driver. That case consists of several piles of BS.

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Post by Böhse Tante Wed May 27, 2020 7:38 am

Zambeezi wrote:#53 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe 141993559 hugs hugs #53 - Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe 141993559
missed you all...
getting settled from the move.
just sayn hi and a lot of catching up to do.
Cheers & Blessings!


Hi, I had a few days break too, but more to watch what's going on in Germany ...

cheers pirat

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
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Post by Böhse Tante Wed May 27, 2020 8:15 am

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Hong Kong rioters at it again...:

Did you become a Chinese government supporter?
These protests reoccur every few years, whenever there is a push from Beijing.
I remember you being on the other side in 2014 - am I wrong?

China wants change - people from Hong Kong don't.
Change could be for better or for worse but always people tend to defend what they have if they have the guts to do it.
Calling them "rioters" is demeaning. They are not out in the streets for looting but to defend something they believe in.
Good or wrong - not my call to say.
Otherwise, any protest anywhere in the world for anything is just "rioting"
"Riots typically involve theft, vandalism, and destruction of property, public or private. The property targeted varies depending on the riot and the inclinations of those involved. Targets can include shops, cars, restaurants, state-owned institutions, and religious buildings."
That is not the case there as it's not the case with Gilets Jaunes either.


Didn't see any speaker from Gilets Jaunes invited to the Berlin Reichstag and cheered by our politicians. Same with protesters from Cataluna or natives from North America.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Böhse Tante Wed May 27, 2020 8:30 am

Orange Man Bad wrote:
luda wrote:
Orange Man Bad wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Hong Kong riots are not just. They are not spontaneous either. Similary to Guaidó's farce in Venezuela or MEK's attempts to re-impose Shah in Iran it's all fake. Fabricated. Just a tool of hegemons.

Could it be western influence? Sure - that is possible and probable - without the deal between USSR and US and their push, half of Europe would still be under communism today.

But I don't think people from Hong Kong forgot what the Cultural Revolution meant for their Chinese brothers. I don't think the're not aware about the corruption level in China or how they dealt with Covid for example, looking forward to have their apartment doors welded.

If you really believe masses dream about living under communism I have nothing more to add.

40 million corona unemployed 50 million food stamps two partys one swamp

hollywood worship people who like tent lives

how capitalism enrich working class

chinese brothers you have none you big trouble

russia support china, west usa in hong kong steal billions every year it game over
Bud, I lived that shit, I grew up with it so please don't try to lecture me. Trust me - living in a tent is better than forced labor.
And China is no friend of Russia and won't ever be, unless you mean Erdogan style of course...


In which "free" country do you live? I see forced labour coming to us too. But combined with living in tents.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

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Post by Böhse Tante Wed May 27, 2020 8:49 am

KneelB4Zod! wrote:


Yeah, while it's worth ~4 billion €.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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I would be careful, there are "interested groups" seeding dissent from both sides. There are people who want to sabotage objective discussions - divide and rule. I notice this in the discussion in German forums, as soon as an attempt at understanding "threatens" to be successful, the trolls jump in between.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Orange Man Bad Wed May 27, 2020 9:05 am

Once again - people of Hong Kong are free to go anywhere they want to.
If they live in unbearable poverty conditions as the clip suggests, why are not the poor fleeing to "mother" China?
I am not saying that everyone lives decently in Hong Kong - obviously not and there is a huge disparity that should not exist in such a rich country. that does not mean at all that those poor people will live any better in China - by the contrary - the fact that they prefer to stay proves it.
Secondly - I am not saying there are no foreign interests there - of course there are.
US wants to keep China in check - they want conflicts around the world so they can play world cop and spend trillions on weaponry toys, bully weak countries and brag about it.

That doesn't mean that China is the angel here. Claiming territories lost up to 350 years ago is anachronistic and show imperial ambitions or at least regional domination. CCP doesn't give a shit about the standard of living of the people of Hong Kong. They didn't give a shift about the lives of tens of millions of Chinese people the purposely starved to death.
So the truth is that the people of Hong Kong don't want to back to China. The fact that the US is stirring the pot and takes advantage of the same people to advance their agenda is less important so don't use it to cover the truth.

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Post by Böhse Tante Wed May 27, 2020 9:12 am

Orange Man Bad wrote:Once again - people of Hong Kong are free to go anywhere they want to.
If they live in unbearable poverty conditions as the clip suggests, why are not the poor fleeing to "mother" China?
I am not saying that everyone lives decently in Hong Kong - obviously not and there is a huge disparity that should not exist in such a rich country. that does not mean at all that those poor people will live any better in China - by the contrary - the fact that they prefer to stay proves it.
Secondly - I am not saying there are no foreign interests there - of course there are.
US wants to keep China in check - they want conflicts around the world so they can play world cop and spend trillions on weaponry toys, bully weak countries and brag about it.

That doesn't mean that China is the angel here. Claiming territories lost up to 350 years ago is anachronistic and show imperial ambitions or at least regional domination. CCP doesn't give a shit about the standard of living of the people of Hong Kong. They didn't give a shift about the lives of tens of millions of Chinese people the purposely starved to death.
So the truth is that the people of Hong Kong don't want to back to China. The fact that the US is stirring the pot and takes advantage of the same people to advance their agenda is less important so don't use it to cover the truth.

A soon as China "gives up" Hongkong you will see a US base there. I wouldn't like that, because I don't like the "empire" growing. As long as the empire is strong there is no chance the rest of the world can develop.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Orange Man Bad Wed May 27, 2020 9:26 am

Böhse Tante wrote:


In which "free" country do you live? I see forced labour coming to us too. But combined with living in tents.

Rolling Eyes

If you want the truth - that is there is no such thing as a "free" country. There is not and there never was. There are countries where the oppression is lower or higher, where the illusion of liberty is stronger or weaker. The inner strength, intellectual abilities and psychology of the individual make him a slave or a free man, not the society he lives in.
A state is by definition an oppressive system that dictates the will of some (in autocracies) or of the majority (in democracies) upon the others, thus limiting their freedom.

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