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Post by Abacus Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:46 pm

Alex Rubinstein
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(July 8, 2021)

I love it when they say the quiet part out loud.
It may be MTG saying it, but it's what everyone with power in DC is thinking.

twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1413228590683070466

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I’m in full support of the troop withdrawal in Afghanistan,
but we are leaving the massive infrastructure that WE built with OUR money and NOTHING for America.
China is moving in & using what WE built for rare earth mineral mines.

WE should have those mining rights NOT China.
twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1413165260886970368

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Post by Abacus Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:47 pm

Ben Norton
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A 2007 US gov't survey found $1 trillion in mineral deposits in Afghanistan,
including gold, copper, cobalt, and lithium (needed to make batteries for computers/phones)

An internal Pentagon memo said Afghanistan could become the “Saudi Arabia of lithium”
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Post by Matjaz Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:55 pm

刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?
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Post by 刘汉 Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:04 pm

Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.
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Post by Abacus Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:06 pm

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The neoliberal Macri government sent 40,000 bullets to the Añez dictatorship in the first days of the coup,
just days before the massacres of Sacaba and Senkata were carried out.

twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1413301435387756546
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How does he want to supply his troops? via Azerbaijan and Turkestan?
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:16 pm

刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

They are jealious. It's a big Slavic nation. But not as big as Russians. It's an inferiority complex, a kind of imho. They were among the first one who jumped on the 3rd Reich band wagon and signed non-agression pact with nazi Germany. Regardless attempts to rewrite the history, we never should forget that they helped Nazis to broke through our border lines amid nazi occupation of Czechoslovakia. Long before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact...


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Post by Zambeezi Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:19 pm

Abacus wrote:Kawsachun News
@KawsachunNews
(July 9, 2021)
The neoliberal Macri government sent 40,000 bullets to the Añez dictatorship in the first days of the coup,
just days before the massacres of Sacaba and Senkata were carried out.
twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1413301435387756546
kawsachunnews.com/argentinas-macri-sent-arms-for-bolivia-coup-massacres
Bolivian government should indict, convict & declare Macri's treachery against Bolivian blood.
Declare him a war criminal like Bush who dares not set foot in various allied countries/law enforcements.

He's a globalist fuckin devil. spit.


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Post by Matjaz Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:24 pm

刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

That's true but same applies to pretty much every European nation, Slovenia as well. Czechs and Slovaks support USA in same extend as do Poles. It is complicated matter, it really is. If we look at current Slovenian government which is right wing, we see that all of them with Janša on top are absolutely in love with Americans and cultivate deep resistance towards Russians. Janša was a hardcore Trump follower and he has allergic reactions to everything Russian. This is common for boomer generation who never moved on since the fall of Berlin wall and still live in the cold war era. The world has changed since 1989 and with them it seems like they never noticed. Many of them(like Janša) hold old grudges towards Soviet union and those resentments will stay forever. I believe that not until new generation take a hold of power, the change in thinking is not possible. These old right wingers, we call them vaseline right wingers here in Slovenia. They are all without exception very pro Israel. Which is first mistake. You can not be right wing and support vehemently Israel, not able to recognize your first AND ONLY enemy when it comes to destroying of your nation. They simply don't get it or they are paid. Secondly, you can not be right wing and support globalism. Janša is very pro EU. I think that is conflicting belief. How could you support EU when you see what EU is all about. They are very naive in thinking they will be able to reform EU according to their likings, not able to realize that EU was established by the very same people they are fighting against. EU can not be reformed because if you reform it according to nationalists wishes, it means you destroy it completely.

So honestly, there's no difference between Poles, Balts, Czechs or Slovenians when it comes to Russia. The only country in Europe that feels honest friendship towards Russia are Serbs.
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

They are jealious. It's a big Slavic nation. But not as big as Russians. It's an inferiority complex, a kind of imho. They were among the first one who jumped on the 3rd Reich band wagon and signed non-agression pact with nazi Germany. Regardless attempts to rewrite the history, we never should forget that they helped Nazis to broke through our border lines amid nazi occupation of Czechoslovakia. Long before Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact...

Yes, you hit the nail on its head with jealousy. The rivalry is very old, ancient almost. At the beginning both tribes were pretty much same in size and they were both competing for dominant role and Russians won the race.
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Post by 刘汉 Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:35 pm

Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

  [...]

   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

That's true but same applies to pretty much every European nation, Slovenia as well. Czechs and Slovaks support USA in same extend as do Poles. It is complicated matter, it really is. If we look at current Slovenian government which is right wing, we see that all of them with Janša on top are absolutely in love with Americans and cultivate deep resistance towards Russians. Janša was a hardcore Trump follower and he has allergic reactions to everything Russian. This is common for boomer generation who never moved on since the fall of Berlin wall and still live in the cold war era. The world has changed since 1989 and with them it seems like they never noticed. Many of them(like Janša) hold old grudges towards Soviet union and those resentments will stay forever. I believe that not until new generation take a hold of power, the change in thinking is not possible. These old right wingers, we call them vaseline right wingers here in Slovenia. They are all without exception very pro Israel. Which is first mistake. You can not be right wing and support vehemently Israel, not able to recognize your first AND ONLY enemy when it comes to destroying of your nation. They simply don't get it or they are paid. Secondly, you can not be right wing and support globalism. Janša is very pro EU. I think that is conflicting belief. How could you support EU when you see what EU is all about. They are very naive in thinking they will be able to reform EU according to their likings, not able to realize that EU was established by the very same people they are fighting against. EU can not be reformed because if you reform it according to nationalists wishes, it means you destroy it completely.

So honestly, there's no difference between Poles, Balts, Czechs or Slovenians when it comes to Russia. The only country in Europe that feels honest friendship towards Russia are Serbs.

I agree, this is a general right-wing problem. Many right-wing politicians see Israel as a successful nation state in the Middle East. In the European Parliament all right-wing parties have now created one group and they want to reform the EU. Only the German AfD was not invited to the meeting, because they have a party decision to leave EU.
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Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

That's true but same applies to pretty much every European nation, Slovenia as well. Czechs and Slovaks support USA in same extend as do Poles. It is complicated matter, it really is. If we look at current Slovenian government which is right wing, we see that all of them with Janša on top are absolutely in love with Americans and cultivate deep resistance towards Russians. Janša was a hardcore Trump follower and he has allergic reactions to everything Russian. This is common for boomer generation who never moved on since the fall of Berlin wall and still live in the cold war era. The world has changed since 1989 and with them it seems like they never noticed. Many of them(like Janša) hold old grudges towards Soviet union and those resentments will stay forever. I believe that not until new generation take a hold of power, the change in thinking is not possible. These old right wingers, we call them vaseline right wingers here in Slovenia. They are all without exception very pro Israel. Which is first mistake. You can not be right wing and support vehemently Israel, not able to recognize your first AND ONLY enemy when it comes to destroying of your nation. They simply don't get it or they are paid. Secondly, you can not be right wing and support globalism. Janša is very pro EU. I think that is conflicting belief. How could you support EU when you see what EU is all about. They are very naive in thinking they will be able to reform EU according to their likings, not able to realize that EU was established by the very same people they are fighting against. EU can not be reformed because if you reform it according to nationalists wishes, it means you destroy it completely.

So honestly, there's no difference between Poles, Balts, Czechs or Slovenians when it comes to Russia. The only country in Europe that feels honest friendship towards Russia are Serbs.

Here you are not right I think. On multiple levels, actually. At first, we definitely do not support US as Polish govt. does. We refused US radar station in our country, Poland welcomed US military base (and suffers from it, of course). We're not in favor of sanctions and threats against Russia. Poles, with their "butthurt" feeling towards Russia are nothing but weak link within V4. Hungaria, Slovakia - we have no problem with Russia. Poland, with their "Kaczinsky assassination" construct... yes, they are easily manipulated.

You can't even imagine how many people here disbelieve our secret service reporting that Russian agents were behind ammo depot explosion in Vrbětice. Even within the government there is not enough supporters of this fabrication. President included...

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Super weird how the CIA director was in Colombia on a "delicate" mission right before Colombian mercs
get popped after successfully assassinating Haitian president Jovenel Moise.
Life's just fully of these coincidences, I guess

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

That's true but same applies to pretty much every European nation, Slovenia as well. Czechs and Slovaks support USA in same extend as do Poles. It is complicated matter, it really is. If we look at current Slovenian government which is right wing, we see that all of them with Janša on top are absolutely in love with Americans and cultivate deep resistance towards Russians. Janša was a hardcore Trump follower and he has allergic reactions to everything Russian. This is common for boomer generation who never moved on since the fall of Berlin wall and still live in the cold war era. The world has changed since 1989 and with them it seems like they never noticed. Many of them(like Janša) hold old grudges towards Soviet union and those resentments will stay forever. I believe that not until new generation take a hold of power, the change in thinking is not possible. These old right wingers, we call them vaseline right wingers here in Slovenia. They are all without exception very pro Israel. Which is first mistake. You can not be right wing and support vehemently Israel, not able to recognize your first AND ONLY enemy when it comes to destroying of your nation. They simply don't get it or they are paid. Secondly, you can not be right wing and support globalism. Janša is very pro EU. I think that is conflicting belief. How could you support EU when you see what EU is all about. They are very naive in thinking they will be able to reform EU according to their likings, not able to realize that EU was established by the very same people they are fighting against. EU can not be reformed because if you reform it according to nationalists wishes, it means you destroy it completely.

So honestly, there's no difference between Poles, Balts, Czechs or Slovenians when it comes to Russia. The only country in Europe that feels honest friendship towards Russia are Serbs.

Here you are not right I think. On multiple levels, actually. At first, we definitely do not support US as Polish govt. does. We refused US radar station in our country, Poland welcomed US military base (and suffers from it, of course). We're not in favor of sanctions and threats against Russia. Poles, with their "butthurt" feeling towards Russia are nothing but weak link within V4. Hungaria, Slovakia -  we have no problem with Russia. Poland, with their "Kaczinsky assassination" construct... yes, they are easily manipulated.

You can't even imagine how many people here disbelieve our secret service reporting that Russian agents were behind ammo depot explosion in Vrbětice. Even within the government there is not enough supporters of this fabrication. President included...

Of course there needs too be made distinction between how people feels and what governments do. I believe there are many Poles who don't cultivate hard feelings towards Russia but what the governments do is different matter. And I admit that Czech governments acts more in favor of Russia or at least not as hostile then polish ones but still in the end they are both under hard influence of USA. You could see recently with whole circus of diplomatic expulsion of Russian and Czech diplomats. It was completely unnecessary but it happened and it happened because Americans have strong influence over Czech foreign policies.
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Matjaz wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Matjaz wrote:
刘汉 wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:The Visegrad Nations Have Nailed Their Complaints To The EU's Door
https://archive.is/GuJAO


The Visegrad nations in the center of Europe are challenging the orthodoxy of the EU elite.
Throughout history direct challenges to enforced dogmas spark a lot of chaos, change, and empower others to stand against the status quo.

[...]

The strategic consequences of the Visegrad nations’ moves against Euro Dogma.

   ►The EU could simply wait this out. Hungary is the most uppity nation but they have no border with the Russians, meaning they simply cannot leave the union. They would be surrounded and starved out like a poorly defended Medieval castle. Generation upon generation of people are becoming more liberal and perhaps in another two generations Hungary will “grow up” to be as submissive and self-loathing as Germany.
   ►There are no legal methods to expel Hungary from the EU. But there were not any in the Soviet Union either and look what happened there. Perhaps if you calmly remove the first domino the others will not fall. See Brexit, as a good example of controlled demolition. Even the most delusional human suits in Brussels have to see that everything to the east is full of barbarians and is Polish migrant labour really worth some future risks of a mass exodus? Perhaps it would be best for stability to just go back to exploiting Africa for cheap labour and cut the Slavs loose.
   ►Poland (and to an extent the rest of the Visegrad Group) is traditionally terrified of Russia, thus given the choice of being cut loose from the EU or going “gay”, there is a strong chance that Warsaw would side with even the most Satanic and self-destructive EU model rather than bow to Moscow. Ironically the threat of being expelled could actually make these nations far more compliant.
   ►As individual nations the Visegrad Group are nothing, as a block they are something, and their Traditionalist efforts need to be coordinated in order to be effective. The EU must keep them as divided as possible.
   ►Any person who is not 100% for LGBT is the enemy in the West. The Mainstream Media will try to turn Orban and other Visegrad leaders into mini-Putins in Europe’s backyard that must be stopped because of freedom. The demonization for them is only just beginning.
   ►Russia will somehow be blamed for this. Russia should plead guilty regardless of the truth of the accusation because it gives even more credibility to them as the “last true Christian nation”.
   ►If the Visegrad Group were to become more or semi-independent then the Ukraine would be divided with the Russians within a few days’ time. All parties would agree that they want certain parts of that region to come back home. A Kiev trapped between “Visegradia” and Russia would be doomed to partitioning.
   ►The weaker the West is, the better Russians can sleep in peace. Russia needs to expand its ideological influence deeper and deeper into the Visegrad nations on all fronts. The EU must find a new way to repackage their Liberal Agenda because out East, they are not buying it.
   ►A system of apologetics/argumentation for traditional families in the XXI century will become more finalized soon and will be the greatest weapon for everyone on the “wrong” side of the Berlin Wall.

The Tschechs, the Slovaks should not look to the Polacks, they should look south to Slovenia, Croatia and Serbia. If they can get the Bulgars or Romanians aboard, they could create a "Danubia". From the mouth of the Danube, they can easily reach Russia. The Austrians and Saxons would join in happily.

Why not Pollacks?

They are a problem, because they are traditionally anti-Russian and pro-US.

That's true but same applies to pretty much every European nation, Slovenia as well. Czechs and Slovaks support USA in same extend as do Poles. It is complicated matter, it really is. If we look at current Slovenian government which is right wing, we see that all of them with Janša on top are absolutely in love with Americans and cultivate deep resistance towards Russians. Janša was a hardcore Trump follower and he has allergic reactions to everything Russian. This is common for boomer generation who never moved on since the fall of Berlin wall and still live in the cold war era. The world has changed since 1989 and with them it seems like they never noticed. Many of them(like Janša) hold old grudges towards Soviet union and those resentments will stay forever. I believe that not until new generation take a hold of power, the change in thinking is not possible. These old right wingers, we call them vaseline right wingers here in Slovenia. They are all without exception very pro Israel. Which is first mistake. You can not be right wing and support vehemently Israel, not able to recognize your first AND ONLY enemy when it comes to destroying of your nation. They simply don't get it or they are paid. Secondly, you can not be right wing and support globalism. Janša is very pro EU. I think that is conflicting belief. How could you support EU when you see what EU is all about. They are very naive in thinking they will be able to reform EU according to their likings, not able to realize that EU was established by the very same people they are fighting against. EU can not be reformed because if you reform it according to nationalists wishes, it means you destroy it completely.

So honestly, there's no difference between Poles, Balts, Czechs or Slovenians when it comes to Russia. The only country in Europe that feels honest friendship towards Russia are Serbs.

Here you are not right I think. On multiple levels, actually. At first, we definitely do not support US as Polish govt. does. We refused US radar station in our country, Poland welcomed US military base (and suffers from it, of course). We're not in favor of sanctions and threats against Russia. Poles, with their "butthurt" feeling towards Russia are nothing but weak link within V4. Hungaria, Slovakia -  we have no problem with Russia. Poland, with their "Kaczinsky assassination" construct... yes, they are easily manipulated.

You can't even imagine how many people here disbelieve our secret service reporting that Russian agents were behind ammo depot explosion in Vrbětice. Even within the government there is not enough supporters of this fabrication. President included...

Of course there needs too be made distinction between how people feels and what governments do. I believe there are many Poles who don't cultivate hard feelings towards Russia but what the governments do is different matter. And I admit that Czech governments acts more in favor of Russia or at least not as hostile then polish ones but still in the end they are both under hard influence of USA. You could see recently with whole circus of diplomatic expulsion of Russian and Czech diplomats. It was completely unnecessary but it happened and it happened because Americans have strong influence over Czech foreign policies.

That's the treat of sanctions, subsidies shortages etc. That's what happen once you enter the globalist realm. But, in extend, we're pain in the ass of the globalist mafia. Not only bcs of our stance related to LGBTMNEHRLHJN OIJHOLKN:?M "minorities". But bcs of our stancerelated to the immigrant crisis, sanctions towards Russia etc. We need CZECH-XIT, in short...

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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:19 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Here you are not right I think. On multiple levels, actually. At first, we definitely do not support US as Polish govt. does. We refused US radar station in our country, Poland welcomed US military base (and suffers from it, of course). We're not in favor of sanctions and threats against Russia. Poles, with their "butthurt" feeling towards Russia are nothing but weak link within V4. Hungaria, Slovakia -  we have no problem with Russia. Poland, with their "Kaczinsky assassination" construct... yes, they are easily manipulated.

You can't even imagine how many people here disbelieve our secret service reporting that Russian agents were behind ammo depot explosion in Vrbětice. Even within the government there is not enough supporters of this fabrication. President included...

Afaik is there little to no difference between people and gov. in Poland. I know some who would defend USA with teeth and nails. How is this in the other countries? Here in Germany maybe less than 50 % pro USA/anti Russia.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Biden will host Merkel in Washington on Thursday. One of the topics of the meeting will be Nord Stream 2, the White House said.


Hopefully Merkel won't undergo one of her shaking seizures and Biden will remember her name...

Perhaps she had the shaking when she received the plans and advice for 2020? I don't think she wants to stay here after the election in Sept.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by Matjaz Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:43 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:

Here you are not right I think. On multiple levels, actually. At first, we definitely do not support US as Polish govt. does. We refused US radar station in our country, Poland welcomed US military base (and suffers from it, of course). We're not in favor of sanctions and threats against Russia. Poles, with their "butthurt" feeling towards Russia are nothing but weak link within V4. Hungaria, Slovakia -  we have no problem with Russia. Poland, with their "Kaczinsky assassination" construct... yes, they are easily manipulated.

You can't even imagine how many people here disbelieve our secret service reporting that Russian agents were behind ammo depot explosion in Vrbětice. Even within the government there is not enough supporters of this fabrication. President included...

Afaik is there little to no difference between people and gov. in Poland. I know some who would defend USA with teeth and nails. How is this in the other countries? Here in Germany maybe less than 50 % pro USA/anti Russia.

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There's quite strong panslavic movement in Poland that derives from modern neo paganism and they are not hostile towards them since its inclusive with the ideology. Also ordinary people not burdened with politics don't grow any particular hatred towards Russians. But like it was already said, the rivalry between these two is old. Slavs in general always find some nemesis among their own, its characteristic that derives from neighbor competition. For instance, Serbs vs Croats, is a good example.
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