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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:42 pm

Zambeezi wrote:
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Mr Badger wrote:This a 40 minute interview with a British undertaker.
You have to see this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gigUyK3yLtMU/

Max Igan is the go to guy in Australia for good info and he has guts too
yeah i like him... taking walk-abouts through his gardens. Thanks 4 this mr. badger  Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 33 3077205713

i still don't know what to make out about the 'end' of the video.
it just seems to me that if you were going to get him to 'keep his mouth shut"...
you would use a THREAT
(not a bribe)
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you wouldn't IDENTIFY yourself.... at all.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/21O7kH5RegbC/
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Another "Channel Restricted" message. Inbteresting...

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IRISH DOCTORS SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE RISKS OF THE COVID VAX TO CHILDREN


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Post by Böhse Tante Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:34 am

@刘汉

There is an article about The "Bayern" in the South Chinese Sea:

https://www.heise.de/tp/news/Kanonenboot-Bayern-In-China-nicht-willkommen-6195272.html

It's also about this:

"Meanwhile, the Stuttgart weekly Kontext recently recalled the war crimes committed by German troops in China at the beginning of the 20th century in a very readable article. There - unlike in this country - the historical memory of them has by no means faded.

Field letters from German soldiers in China

"You should have seen how we entered the city. Everything that got in our way, man, woman or child, everything was slaughtered. Well, how the women screamed! But the Emperor's orders are to give no quarter."

"Everything that could easily be dragged away was carried away." Everything we could lay our hands on was slaughtered, and neither woman nor child was spared. Towards evening we burned down the whole town. I looked more like a butcher than a German soldier that day."

In the summer of 1900, troops from various European countries and the USA had put down the so-called Boxer Rebellion. The German soldiers arrived in the theatre of war only after Beijing (Peking) had already been taken. The massacres described in the above quotations occurred on the march from the coast to the already subjugated national capital. An apology from Germany for these crimes committed in its name is still pending."

Now someone posted this link and I ask how China sees it.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinesisch-Deutsche_Kooperation_(1911–1941)

To me, this seems to be viewed very much through a "pro-German" lens.

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Dr. Ron Paul,MD: The people who are dying of covid are the ones who took the "vaccine".


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Post by Zambeezi Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:45 am

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BELGRADE, SERBIA: VACCINE PASSPORT/MANDATE PROTESTS SEPT. 18, 2021

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Kuwait: Vaccine Mandate and Passport Protests Sept. 18 2021

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France: Orange Clad Hunters and Farmers Protest Vaccine Passport&Mandates Sept. 18, 2021

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Denmark Sept. 15, 2021: Men in Black and others Protest Epidemic Law

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Post by Zambeezi Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:24 am

“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”
“Vaccines in Your Salad? Scientists Growing Medicine-Filled Plants to Replace Injections”
https://archive.ph/fVeWF

https://www.studyfinds.org/vaccines-salad-growing-plants/

Vaccinations can be a controversial subject for many people, especially when it comes to injections.
So what if you could replace your next shot with a salad instead?
Researchers at the University of California-Riverside are working on a way to grow edible plants
that carry the same medication as an mRNA vaccine.

mRNA vaccines have to stay in cold storage until use or they lose stability.
The UC-Riverside team says if they’re successful, the public could eat plant-based mRNA vaccines
— which could also survive at room temperature.

Thanks to a $500,000 grant from the National Science Foundation, researchers are now looking accomplish three goals.
First, the team will try to successfully deliver DNA containing mRNA vaccines into plant cells, where they can replicate.
Next, the study authors want to show that plants can actually produce enough mRNA to replace a traditional injection.
Finally, the team will need to determine the right dosage people will need to eat to properly replace vaccinations.

“Ideally, a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person,”

“We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens,”
“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”

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Post by Mr Badger Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:44 am

Zambeezi wrote:“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”
“Vaccines in Your Salad? Scientists Growing Medicine-Filled Plants to Replace Injections”
https://archive.ph/fVeWF

https://www.studyfinds.org/vaccines-salad-growing-plants/

Vaccinations can be a controversial subject for many people, especially when it comes to injections.
So what if you could replace your next shot with a salad instead?
Researchers at the University of California-Riverside are working on a way to grow edible plants
that carry the same medication as an mRNA vaccine.

mRNA vaccines have to stay in cold storage until use or they lose stability.
The UC-Riverside team says if they’re successful, the public could eat plant-based mRNA vaccines
— which could also survive at room temperature.

Thanks to a $500,000 grant from the National Science Foundation, researchers are now looking accomplish three goals.
First, the team will try to successfully deliver DNA containing mRNA vaccines into plant cells, where they can replicate.
Next, the study authors want to show that plants can actually produce enough mRNA to replace a traditional injection.
Finally, the team will need to determine the right dosage people will need to eat to properly replace vaccinations.

“Ideally, a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person,”

“We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens,”
“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”

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Post by 刘汉 Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:26 am

Böhse Tante wrote:@刘汉

There is an article about The "Bayern" in the South Chinese Sea:

https://www.heise.de/tp/news/Kanonenboot-Bayern-In-China-nicht-willkommen-6195272.html

It's also about this:

"Meanwhile, the Stuttgart weekly Kontext recently recalled the war crimes committed by German troops in China at the beginning of the 20th century in a very readable article. There - unlike in this country - the historical memory of them has by no means faded.

Field letters from German soldiers in China

"You should have seen how we entered the city. Everything that got in our way, man, woman or child, everything was slaughtered. Well, how the women screamed! But the Emperor's orders are to give no quarter."

"Everything that could easily be dragged away was carried away." Everything we could lay our hands on was slaughtered, and neither woman nor child was spared. Towards evening we burned down the whole town. I looked more like a butcher than a German soldier that day."

In the summer of 1900, troops from various European countries and the USA had put down the so-called Boxer Rebellion. The German soldiers arrived in the theatre of war only after Beijing (Peking) had already been taken. The massacres described in the above quotations occurred on the march from the coast to the already subjugated national capital. An apology from Germany for these crimes committed in its name is still pending."

Now someone posted this link and I ask how China sees it.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinesisch-Deutsche_Kooperation_(1911–1941)

To me, this seems to be viewed very much through a "pro-German" lens.

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What I can say immediately:

The defeat of the boxers: Of course the Chinese hate all of the invaders. The Germans are no exception.

The treaty of Versailles: When the Chinese government learnt about the defeat of Germany, they sent a delegation to Paris to get back Qingdao, that was occupied after the defeat of the boxers by the Germans. But they learnt quickly, that the British and the French had given Qingdao to Japan already. The plan of the British and the French was to attack Soviet-Russia from East and West. Japan should help them in Far East. The Chinese delegation was upset about this. The Chinese delegation refused to sign the treaty of Versailles and left Paris under protest. Back home in Beijing the Chinese students took the streets in large demonstrations. These demonstrations are remembered to this very day and celebrated every year in a holiday. This was on May the 4th in 1919. The students started the 4th May movement. Among the students were the founders of the Communist Party of China. But the CCP was not separated from the Revolutionary Party at this time. There was one party for all.
In the treaty of Versailles Germany was forced to reduce its military to 100,000 men. So many soldiers had to leave. But the Imperial Forces (Reichswehr) found many ways to circumvent this. There were many militias (Freicorps), that were not counted into the 100,000 men, but were fully equipped and ready to action. And many soldiers left Germany, because they could not find work. They went to Bolivia (Roehm), to Soviet Russia and to China. They were ready to return immediately, if necessary. They helped in these countries to built modern armies. The Revolutionary Party (Guo Min Tang) in China welcomed them. So the troops of this party were fully equipped with German equipment. So it was not Germany, that was equipping China. The German Imperial Forces (Reichswehr) were equipping the troops of the Guo Min Tang. In 1921 the Communists separated from this party and founded their own party.  China was split into many factions (warlords), fighting each other and cooperating, as the situation commanded.
The Japanese had occupied Mandschuria, Qingdao, Taiwan and had a concession area in Shanghai as the British, the French and the US. The British were cooperating  with the Japanese and the German Imperial Forces were cooperating with the Guo Min Tang.
In 1923 US was forcing Japan to leave Mandschuria and Qingdao in the treaty of San Francisco (if I am not mistaken). Japan and the British were very angry about this, because this was destroying their plans against Soviet-Russia.
During the 1920s the British (the Conservatives of course) were making new plans and were watching closely the rise of the NSDAP in Germany. This party was making a clear propaganda against Soviet-Russia. So the British Conservatives decided to support them. Many members of the NSDAP were also members of the Imperial Forces. In 1933 after Hitler became Chancellor, the British gave him permission to enlist more men than 100,000. So all the officers were called back from abroad. And Hitler agreed to become a member of the coalition in the coming war against Soviet-Russia. Germany  was suddenly allied with Japan. The Imperial Forces (Reichswehr) were changed into the Wehrmacht. The support of the Guo Min Tang stopped and was switched to Japan. Japan re-occupied Manchuria.
The British Conservatives were very happy about this. Everything seemed to go according to their plans. In summer 1939 everything was ready for the attack on the Soviet-Union. The Japanese troops in Manchuria were put under alert and should wait for the order to attack.
But very surprisingly for all the world, Hitler made a pact with Stalin.
The Japanese ambassador to Germany committed suicide, because he could not explain to his emperor, what had happened with the Germans.
The British Conservatives were in shock.  
This was the chance for Churchill to accuse Chamberlain, that he had trusted the Germans. Churchill went to Russia and convinced Stalin not to trust Hitler (this was easy).
Hitler had to calm down the Japanese (this was difficult). So Hitler suggested not to attack the Soviet-Union, but the British Colonial Empire instead. So the Japanese turned their troops from the Far North to the South and attacked South-East Asia, but did not touch the American Philippines. Stalin requested Istanbul as the price for attacking British India. Hitler had to refuse, because Mussolini had already made the same request.
In the meantime Churchill met with Rooseveldt and persuaded him to support the British. This was more difficult as it seems. Because of the rift beween US and UK after the peace treaty of Versailles. US had like China not signed the treaty and did not agree with British politics. The British had supported the Japanese against Russia. US had good relations with Russia.
But Churchill supposed to abandon the Japanese and to support the Guo Min Tang and the Communist Party of China. The British plan was a German Russian war. It didn't matter on which side they were. Chamberlain had planned it in alliance with Germany. Churchill was doing the same, but had just switched the sides. This didn't matter, because the British were only interested in the outcome and not to be much involved themselves.

To sum up:
First the German military was supporting the Guo Min Tang, the British were supporting the Japanese, between 1919 and 1933.
Then Germany and the British were supporting the Japanese, between 1933 and 1939. The Chinese were completely abandoned.
Third Germany was supporting the Japanese and US and UK were supporting the Guo Min Tang and the Communist Party, from 1939 to 1945.

The Communist Party today does not hate the Guo Min Tang, because the Guo Min Tang is the older party and they cooperated for some time against the Japanese. The Guo Min Tang has even seat and voice in the Chinese parliament. The Communist Party considers the German politics between 1933 and 1945 wrong.
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^^^i'm going to read this 5 times. Really 刘汉 ????????????
you just hammer this kind of stuff out in your spare time?????
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Post by 刘汉 Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:58 am

Böhse Tante wrote:@刘汉

There is an article about The "Bayern" in the South Chinese Sea:

https://www.heise.de/tp/news/Kanonenboot-Bayern-In-China-nicht-willkommen-6195272.html

It's also about this:

"Meanwhile, the Stuttgart weekly Kontext recently recalled the war crimes committed by German troops in China at the beginning of the 20th century in a very readable article. There - unlike in this country - the historical memory of them has by no means faded.

Field letters from German soldiers in China

"You should have seen how we entered the city. Everything that got in our way, man, woman or child, everything was slaughtered. Well, how the women screamed! But the Emperor's orders are to give no quarter."

"Everything that could easily be dragged away was carried away." Everything we could lay our hands on was slaughtered, and neither woman nor child was spared. Towards evening we burned down the whole town. I looked more like a butcher than a German soldier that day."

In the summer of 1900, troops from various European countries and the USA had put down the so-called Boxer Rebellion. The German soldiers arrived in the theatre of war only after Beijing (Peking) had already been taken. The massacres described in the above quotations occurred on the march from the coast to the already subjugated national capital. An apology from Germany for these crimes committed in its name is still pending."

Now someone posted this link and I ask how China sees it.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinesisch-Deutsche_Kooperation_(1911–1941)

To me, this seems to be viewed very much through a "pro-German" lens.

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This map is very informative. Finally I understand the route of the "Bayern". This route in itself is a provocation.
Diego Garcia (UK & US)
Australia
Guam (US)
Japan
and then directly into the South China Sea.
This shows Germany as the useful idiot of AUKUS.

"Der Sender zitiert den Sprecher chinesischen Außenministers Zhao Lijian mit den Worten, dass sein Land großen Wert auf "die Entwicklung einer strategischen Partnerschaft mit Deutschland" lege, die auch das Militär einschließe. Er hoffe, dass die nicht aus der ostasiatischen Region stammenden Länder eine "konstruktive Rolle" spielen und die Anstrengungen der Anrainerstaaten respektieren, Frieden und Stabilität zu erhalten."

The spokesman of the Chinese Foreign Ministry Zhao Lijian puts it very politely and gives Germany all possibilities to refrain from such a policy. He expresses, that China wants to have a strategic partnership with Germany including the military. He hopes that non-East-Asian countries can play a constructive role and respect the efforts of the neighbouring countries to preserve peace and stability.

The participation in the attack on China in 1899/1900 is seen as part of the German politics under Wilhelm II. After the 2nd German Empire had lost WW I Germany and China had both lost their emperors. Both countries were struggling in revolutionary uprisings. And both countries wanted the treaty of Versailles revoked. So the Guo Min Tang and the German military started their cooperation.

I can understand Böhse Tante's impression that the quoted wikipedia-article seems to be "pro-German", but this is not true.
First the author of this article excludes UK completely from his article. It is wrong, that Hitler changed the German support from the Guo Min Tang to the Japanese, because he considered the Japanese more fit to fight the Russians. He did this on clear British advise. The British had a long standing alliance with Japan dating from 1902. The Japanese-Russian war in 1904 made it even closer and the British were upset, that Germany had allowed the Russian ships to call at German ports and taking coals. Without the German help, the Russians would not have made the route from Kronstadt to Tsuschima. So it was new to integrate the Germans under the Hitler administration into the British anti-Russia coalition with Japan.

The problem is our current narrative of WW II. It was written by Churchill (The Second World War, six volumes 1948 - 1953). Of course he did not explain, that he was throwing the Japanese under the bus. All his switching around is covered up. His treatment of the French was absolutely horrible.
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Zambeezi wrote:^^^i'm going to read this 5 times. Really 刘汉 ????????????
you just hammer this kind of stuff out in your spare time?????
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Thanks a lot. No, not in my spare time. Just when I am taking a breath between writing my doctoral dissertation (about Egypt) and some Chinese students coming along and asking for help with their homework.

I am a German. I try to understand, what happened with WW II. I try to find my way through this jungle of propaganda around Hitler. That's what I am doing. Nothing more.
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Post by Böhse Tante Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:31 pm

This is about a change in the law on "sick pay", which required some prior knowledge. To this article:

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Ungeimpfte-in-EU-Staaten-bald-ohne-Lohn-und-Arbeitslosengeld-6195368.html

"Unvaccinated in EU countries soon without wages and unemployment benefits"

My comment on a link:

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Ungeimpfte-in-EU-Staaten-bald-ohne-Lohn-und-Arbeitslosengeld/Re-Was-will-der-Artikel-bezwecken/posting-39648916/show/

The chronology is quite exciting. The authorities must have horny crystal balls.

https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/2148/al85918-0.htm

The info bar says "amended by Article 1 G. v. 10.02.2020 BGBI. I p. 148".

Of course, such an amendment to the law has a lead time and does not suddenly appear in the statute book as if by magic.

Add to this the announcement of 14.03.2020 (good thing I saved it):

https://twitter.com/BMG_Bund/status/1238780849652465664



then it should be clear that the course of the whole thing was known in advance by certain people. Anyone who still dismisses it as a coincidence that the new version specifically refers to a vaccination is unwilling to take off their rose-coloured glasses.

...................

Please note, such things as a change in the law in advance of the event is strong evidence that the thing was planned that way. Did similar things happen in other countries? That would be amazing if there was something similar elsewhere at the same time. Changes in the law to coincide with a pandemic, forcing people to be vaccinated even before the pandemic has been declared by the WHO and before a vaccine has been "developed".

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That was a shitty translation. Not "horny" but "awesome" crystal balls ...

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by Böhse Tante Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:03 pm

Mr Badger wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”
“Vaccines in Your Salad? Scientists Growing Medicine-Filled Plants to Replace Injections”
https://archive.ph/fVeWF

https://www.studyfinds.org/vaccines-salad-growing-plants/

Vaccinations can be a controversial subject for many people, especially when it comes to injections.
So what if you could replace your next shot with a salad instead?
Researchers at the University of California-Riverside are working on a way to grow edible plants
that carry the same medication as an mRNA vaccine.

mRNA vaccines have to stay in cold storage until use or they lose stability.
The UC-Riverside team says if they’re successful, the public could eat plant-based mRNA vaccines
— which could also survive at room temperature.

Thanks to a $500,000 grant from the National Science Foundation, researchers are now looking accomplish three goals.
First, the team will try to successfully deliver DNA containing mRNA vaccines into plant cells, where they can replicate.
Next, the study authors want to show that plants can actually produce enough mRNA to replace a traditional injection.
Finally, the team will need to determine the right dosage people will need to eat to properly replace vaccinations.

“Ideally, a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person,”

“We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens,”
“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”

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Nope.

"No saviour from on high delivers ..."

This is the literal translation from the German text:

"No higher power will save us,
No God, no Caesar, no tribune.
To redeem us out of misery,
Only we ourselves can do!
Empty words: "the rights of the poor"!
Empty words: "the duties of the rich"!
They call us immature and only servants,
Tolerate the humiliation no longer!"

And even if you are not "left", communist or else, you should think about it. If I would wait for help "from above" I would not be on this forum.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by Mr Badger Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:08 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:
Mr Badger wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”
“Vaccines in Your Salad? Scientists Growing Medicine-Filled Plants to Replace Injections”
https://archive.ph/fVeWF

https://www.studyfinds.org/vaccines-salad-growing-plants/

Vaccinations can be a controversial subject for many people, especially when it comes to injections.
So what if you could replace your next shot with a salad instead?
Researchers at the University of California-Riverside are working on a way to grow edible plants
that carry the same medication as an mRNA vaccine.

mRNA vaccines have to stay in cold storage until use or they lose stability.
The UC-Riverside team says if they’re successful, the public could eat plant-based mRNA vaccines
— which could also survive at room temperature.

Thanks to a $500,000 grant from the National Science Foundation, researchers are now looking accomplish three goals.
First, the team will try to successfully deliver DNA containing mRNA vaccines into plant cells, where they can replicate.
Next, the study authors want to show that plants can actually produce enough mRNA to replace a traditional injection.
Finally, the team will need to determine the right dosage people will need to eat to properly replace vaccinations.

“Ideally, a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person,”

“We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens,”
“Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”

Gods help us Main news thread - conflicts, terrorism, crisis from around the globe - Page 33 1143234681

Nope.

"No saviour from on high delivers ..."

This is the literal translation from the German text:

"No higher power will save us,
No God, no Caesar, no tribune.
To redeem us out of misery,
Only we ourselves can do!
Empty words: "the rights of the poor"!
Empty words: "the duties of the rich"!
They call us immature and only servants,
Tolerate the humiliation no longer!"

And even if you are not "left", communist or else, you should think about it. If I would wait for help "from above" I would not be on this forum.

Twisted Evil


It's just an expression. I'm not in the least bit religious. In fact, I'm of the Richard Dawkins brand of militant atheism.

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Post by Böhse Tante Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:20 pm

Zambeezi wrote:^^^i'm going to read this 5 times. Really 刘汉 ????????????
you just hammer this kind of stuff out in your spare time?????
glad to have you here in Zodland.

From me too. Many thanks for this effort. Unfortunately, we hardly got as far as the 20th century in our history lessons - or maybe that's a good thing, better not to have learned something than to have learned nonsense. We wouldn't have learned anything about China anyway.

lol!

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

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Böhse Tante wrote:
Zambeezi wrote:^^^i'm going to read this 5 times. Really 刘汉 ????????????
you just hammer this kind of stuff out in your spare time?????
glad to have you here in Zodland.

From me too. Many thanks for this effort. Unfortunately, we hardly got as far as the 20th century in our history lessons - or maybe that's a good thing, better not to have learned something than to have learned nonsense. We wouldn't have learned anything about China anyway.

lol!

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Great movie about the Chinese-German cooperation and the switching to Japan. A German-Chinese coproduction, praised in China, but ignored in Germany. The full version is not on Youtube anymore. Luckily I have downloaded it. But on dailymotion seems to be a full version.
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Post by Böhse Tante Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:35 pm

My head is a bit foggy from the flood of information, I don't know if anything has already been reported on this material:

https://medium.com/@swen.gerards/was-man-wissen-könnte-c889334181d2

"...

As can be seen from the table, the substances ALC-0315 and ALC-0159 accumulate in the adrenal glands, bone marrow, liver, ovaries and spleen.

...

However, ALC-0159 and ALC-0315 received their first approval when they were used in the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine. This can be seen, for example, in the report of the MHRA in Great Britain.

The substance called ALC-0315 or ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate)) is the main component of the lipid nanoparticle in Comirnaty. ALC-0315 is an ionisable lipid () which binds with the mRNA and once inside the cell is responsible for releasing the mRNA from the liposome. More about this here and here.

In my search for cationic lipids/liposomes, I found this study that looks at the state of the science regarding liposomes. It was published in MDPI/Nanomaterials in January 2020 and concludes with the words:

There is still much work to be done to understand the mechanisms through which liposomes interact with the immune system before the full potential of liposome-based systems for gene and drug delivery can be achieved.

This study shows that cationic lipids are toxic to macrophages, macrophage-like and monocyte-like cells. And here I would like to focus specifically on the effect of cationic lipids on macrophages, specifically macrophages of type 169+, which are abundant in the spleen. More information on CD169+ macrophages can be found here, here, here, here and here.

In summary, the CD169+ macrophages present in the spleen and lymph nodes play an important role in the immune response to viral infections, immune tolerance to self and antitumour immunity.

The articles and reviews I found are mostly not older than 2 years and most of them point out that the effects starting from cationic lipids/nanoparticles have not yet been sufficiently researched. The mode of action and significance of macrophages, especially of the CD169+ type, also do not seem to be fully understood.

All this information fills me with unease when I look at the numbers that are found here. At the time of writing, over 400,000,000 doses of the Comirnaty vaccine have been administered in the EU.

Have the authorities done a shoddy job here? Why is the information I was able to find on the internet not to be found in any major newspaper? Be it in Germany, or worldwide? What if in a few years it turns out that the cytotoxicity of the main ingredient of the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine to macrophages opens the door to a reduced immune defence against viral diseases, to a flood of cancer and autoimmune diseases?"
.........................

In the original text there are several links to English pages.

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Obviously, Australia is back in its penal colony era...


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