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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:46 am

From ZH:

"If it seems like every person who managed to escape Wuhan is carrying the virus, here's one possible explanation: the WHO estimated that the coronavirus has a Ro (a measure of how contagious a virus is) of 2, equivalent to the Spanish flu that sickened 500 million during the first half of the 20th century. The common flu, by comparison, has a Ro of 0.9."

Take in account that 100 years ago there was a lot less travel!

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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Post by daily spectator Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:24 am

Pillar2 wrote:Hi .Just returned home from holiday.With all respect for China and Chinese people but it's obvious that Chinese government is lying about actual numbers of cases and deaths. It is estimated that even few thousands have been infected and it could be low estimate. This is my opinion on this situation .

Not lying for sure but highly probable.
However - they obviously are doing something. Look at mobilization, quarantine, medical personnel involved, etc.
Western "democratic civilization" would lie most certainly even more and do absolutely nothing.
Compare Fukushima with Cernobil.
One helicopter hovered for 5 min and took off. Russian send hundreds of helicopters and risked exposing many thousands of their own people with many casualties.
Russians lied but they covered them damn shit in a couple months. I want to know, how many Japanese died trying to contain it?
Japan and allies lied and keep lying since did shit in 8 years - same, if not worse than the first day.

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Post by daily spectator Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:02 am

China Shutters All 70,000 Movie Theaters in Response to Coronavirus Outbreak:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chinas-cinemas-officially-close-response-coronavirus-outbreak-1272566

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Post by daily spectator Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:04 am

Phillippines shipping 500 the Chinese back to origin:

https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/1/24/wuhan-tourists-repatriation.html?fbclid=IwAR1zd7hLwbvlMHJIQVmZ4Mq8Srk960L2F115Tt-XKSjh0Bl0P-f76MxSjhg

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Post by Slovák Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:45 am

01/24 10:38 WHO recommends that all countries be prepared to contain Novel Coronavirus - Rospotrebnadzor
http://www.interfax.com/news.asp

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:52 pm

Czech media:

26 dead, quaranteen extended to 10 cities with 60 million people

(short video in the article)

https://www.novinky.cz/zahranicni/svet/clanek/novy-koronavirus-ma-uz-25-obeti-nakazenych-je-830-40311021?seq_no=2&source=hp&dop_req_id=GgKl077c2FB-202001241131&dop_ab_variant=0&dop_source_zone_name=novinky.sznhp.box&utm_source=www.seznam.cz&utm_medium=z-boxiku&utm_campaign=null

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Post by oink Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:07 pm

Two suspected coronavirus cases in northern Finland
Two tourists from China's Wuhan province sought medical treatment during their visit to Finland.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/two_suspected_coronavirus_cases_in_northern_finland/11173752

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Post by oink Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:24 pm

oops

Almost 300,000 Wuhan residents successfully escape from the city before lockdown, some develop fever symptoms
According to sources, close to 300,000 residents from Wuhan managed to leave the city via Hankou railway station and
Wuchang railway station yesterday upon hearing that the city would be put on lockdown.

Many of them showed off their successful escapade on WEIBO while a few already developed fever symptoms.

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/almost-300000-wuhan-residents-successfully-escape-from-the-city-before-lockdown-some-develop-fever-symptoms/

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Post by Slovák Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:15 pm

Chinese ice hockey clubs to play Top League matches in Russia due to epidemiological situation at home
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Post by blue wizard from the east Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:25 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:From ZH:

"If it seems like every person who managed to escape Wuhan is carrying the virus, here's one possible explanation: the WHO estimated that the coronavirus has a Ro (a measure of how contagious a virus is) of 2, equivalent to the Spanish flu that sickened 500 million during the first half of the 20th century. The common flu, by comparison, has a Ro of 0.9."

Take in account that 100 years ago there was a lot less travel!

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It was at the end of WW1, so there was much travelling military personnel. That's how it spread.

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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:34 pm

Hm, I forgot this. But one interesting thing was that it had two rounds over the globe, the first was by far not so desastrous. The second was and afaik the most viktims were young, healty adults. Very unusual.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by blue wizard from the east Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:46 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:

I have seen Chinese construction work. The speed is amazing! The quality doesn't matter now. Nobody should accuse the Chinese government of anything in this case. Only an authoritarian government can act so fast and precise. If Western media is talking about the freedom of the inhabitants of Wuhan. So it is to say, that they are a danger to the rest of China. If they would travel freely, this virus would spread much faster. I don't care about the exact numbers. The WHO is a disgrace. They think, it's just a Chinese problem. If the Chinese die, it doesn't matter to them. From my Chinese friends I hear, they are horribly afraid.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:21 pm

oink wrote:Two suspected coronavirus cases in northern Finland
Two tourists from China's Wuhan province sought medical treatment during their visit to Finland.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/two_suspected_coronavirus_cases_in_northern_finland/11173752

This was false alarm, no coronavirus in Finland.

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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:45 pm

In Germany they would need more than 12 days - to discuss if they should make a plan to eventually build a hospital. If they decide to build it, they would need a few months to start the construction and with the help of good weather and some miracles work would be done before 2025.

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Post by khnum Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:50 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:In Germany they would need more than 12 days - to discuss if they should make a plan to eventually build a hospital. If they decide to build it, they would need a few months to start the construction and with the help of good weather and some miracles work would be done before 2025.

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In my country you might get feasibility studies,environmental studies and council approval by 2025 but if the vote is down you'll get a new
football stadium for bread and circuses within 18 months

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Post by blue wizard from the east Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:54 pm

Böhse Tante wrote:In Germany they would need more than 12 days - to discuss if they should make a plan to eventually build a hospital. If they decide to build it, they would need a few months to start the construction and with the help of good weather and some miracles work would be done before 2025.

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Post by Böhse Tante Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:35 pm

khnum wrote:
Böhse Tante wrote:In Germany they would need more than 12 days - to discuss if they should make a plan to eventually build a hospital. If they decide to build it, they would need a few months to start the construction and with the help of good weather and some miracles work would be done before 2025.

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In my country you might get feasibility studies,environmental studies and council approval by 2025 but if the vote is down you'll get a new
football stadium for bread and circuses within 18 months

? Which country ?

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way so that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it can not be changed "top-down", only in some kind of "grassroots revolution" or better "evolution" where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).

No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:56 pm

As per Czech media: Youngest victim is 30 years old man without any previous health complications...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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2 cases confirmed in France

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

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