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Post by The_Real_Mr_Anderson Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:42 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:
The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
The_Real_Mr_Anderson wrote:Casualties due to clashes between security and demonstrators in central Tehran #

العربية عاجل (@AlArabiya_Brk) Tweeted:
وقوع إصابات جراء مواجهات بين الأمن ومتظاهرين وسط طهران #العربية_عاجل https://t.co/a1vIGVFnOW https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Brk/status/1216454490049646593?s=20

Let's not forget...:

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Have you seen their statement about his death being a divine intervention ?

Of course. They cheer Trump's action as well as al-Qaeda in Idlib.

Gotta laugh at the irony Trumps says he killed a terrorist but the act is then celebrated by the Terrorists
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Libya

Fayez el Sarraj (chariman of GNA) and Khalifa Haftar (commander of LNA) are in Moscow, Russia right now to sign a peace treaty with each other brokered by Putin and Erdogan.

You have all been fooled.

Good Night.


Wow, the globalists were outmanoeuvre again...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by khnum Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:50 pm

KneelB4Zod! wrote:Pepe Escobar
6 hrs ·

IT AIN’T OVER TILL THE CYBER EXPERTS SING

THE STRIKE ON THE UKRAINIAN BOEING MAY HAVE BEEN THE CONSEQUENCE OF A CYBER ATTACK

Iranian radars disabled. Coordinates of a civilian Ukrainian aircraft changed – so it would look like an enemy aircraft.

The downing of the Ukrainian Boeing might have been the result of a US cyber attack.

Of course this is a - literally - explosive issue. I’ve been on it for a few hours now – but it’s Sunday, very hard to get any official comment. I sent messages to different players in Iran and Russia, awaiting response. One of them, from Iran, says “no discussion of a cyber-attack”, for now.

And yet IRGC Aerospace Commander Hajizadeh’s speech is a dead giveaway. He said a huge “anomaly” impaired Tehran’s air defense system, leading to the impression an enemy plane was approaching a sensitive military center – the root of the subsequent “human error”.

He also said that in the hours after the IRGC missile attack on the Ayn al-Asad base, the Americans had multiplied fighter jet flights near Iran’s aerial borders. Not only Tehran was targeted, but other strategic military centers as well.

One can imagine nerves fraying all across the spectrum.

One can read Hajizadeh’s explanation as a very subtle description of a cyber attack. Perhaps the IRGC does not have the full intel – yet. Perhaps they cannot reveal the full story of how they fell victim to a cyber attack – and that would explain the long gap between them acknowledging the hit and the Iranian government officially announcing it.

Russian military site avia.pro goes straight to the point. This is their English version, which is not as detailed as the report in Russian.

http://avia-pro.net/news/prichinoy-unichtozheniya-ukrainskogo-boeing-737-stali-amerikanskie-sredstva-reb?fbclid=IwAR0v6LgAxStLa9gyM0Csp9YCaQz38x314tqBmHRJE-MhS7voeSSATaP1coo

avia.pro are not amateurs. The report in Russian says that if that was cyberwarfare by the Americans, the coup matches point by point the destruction of an IL-20 near Lattakia in September 2018 - which Israeli fighter planes used as a shield.

avia.pro goes for the working hypothesis that the US military cyber attack modified not only the profile of the Ukro-Boeing. The Ukrainian pilot made a U-turn as well. So the cyber attack may have also targeted the Boeing’s navigation system. The Americans have done this many times before.

Malign Manatee Pompeo’s gloating is an indirect giveaway. He said it was an Iranian missile even before any serious investigation had started. And picking a Tehran-Kiev flight – among so many other flights that day – is a thing of beauty. It carries the possibility of blaming BOTH Iran and Russia (I posted about it; Russia was blamed by Ukrainians). And it carries the possibility of “indirect” collaboration by the Ukro-mafioso system – with US “rewards” showering afterwards.

What about “collateral damage”? There’s A LOT of chatter – of course, no smokin’ gun – that the Ukro-flight was a RAT FLIGHT, as in containing a planeload of dodgy intel types. The destination of the flight is also a dead giveaway. In previous instances, “Canadians” carrying false Canadian passports usually turn out to be CIA and/or MOSSAD operating in Ukraine.

NOTHING is beyond the appalling Exceptionalist racket – and NOTHING should be excluded from investigation. The Ukro-incident completely eviscerated from the news cycle the immense HUMILIATION suffered by the “greatest army in the history of the universe” in Iraq. In fact it could have been the HYBRID WAR AMERICAN RESPONSE - as it happened only five hours after the immense humiliation itself.

This is far from over: it’s an ongoing investigation. Experts are more than welcomed.

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10157820584511678

Starting with 9-11 on through the Las Vegas shooting the whole world has discerned the Saudi/Israeli/US sulphurous stench coming off these events.Unfortunately the Americns haven't.False  
flag attacks in Syria,Epstein/Prince Andrew and now this will all disappear in the next few news cycles as they conjure up the next distraction,please back up or mirror your site as a just in case.Theres not too many proper historical records out there.

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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:50 pm

Within Syria
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By the way, the entire Syrian government is in Tehran.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Paul Craig Roberts: The Danger In Threats
https://paulcraigroberts.org/2020/01/11/the-danger-in-threats/


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:01 pm

khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:Pepe Escobar
6 hrs ·

IT AIN’T OVER TILL THE CYBER EXPERTS SING

THE STRIKE ON THE UKRAINIAN BOEING MAY HAVE BEEN THE CONSEQUENCE OF A CYBER ATTACK

Iranian radars disabled. Coordinates of a civilian Ukrainian aircraft changed – so it would look like an enemy aircraft.

The downing of the Ukrainian Boeing might have been the result of a US cyber attack.

Of course this is a - literally - explosive issue. I’ve been on it for a few hours now – but it’s Sunday, very hard to get any official comment. I sent messages to different players in Iran and Russia, awaiting response. One of them, from Iran, says “no discussion of a cyber-attack”, for now.

And yet IRGC Aerospace Commander Hajizadeh’s speech is a dead giveaway. He said a huge “anomaly” impaired Tehran’s air defense system, leading to the impression an enemy plane was approaching a sensitive military center – the root of the subsequent “human error”.

He also said that in the hours after the IRGC missile attack on the Ayn al-Asad base, the Americans had multiplied fighter jet flights near Iran’s aerial borders. Not only Tehran was targeted, but other strategic military centers as well.

One can imagine nerves fraying all across the spectrum.

One can read Hajizadeh’s explanation as a very subtle description of a cyber attack. Perhaps the IRGC does not have the full intel – yet. Perhaps they cannot reveal the full story of how they fell victim to a cyber attack – and that would explain the long gap between them acknowledging the hit and the Iranian government officially announcing it.

Russian military site avia.pro goes straight to the point. This is their English version, which is not as detailed as the report in Russian.

http://avia-pro.net/news/prichinoy-unichtozheniya-ukrainskogo-boeing-737-stali-amerikanskie-sredstva-reb?fbclid=IwAR0v6LgAxStLa9gyM0Csp9YCaQz38x314tqBmHRJE-MhS7voeSSATaP1coo

avia.pro are not amateurs. The report in Russian says that if that was cyberwarfare by the Americans, the coup matches point by point the destruction of an IL-20 near Lattakia in September 2018 - which Israeli fighter planes used as a shield.

avia.pro goes for the working hypothesis that the US military cyber attack modified not only the profile of the Ukro-Boeing. The Ukrainian pilot made a U-turn as well. So the cyber attack may have also targeted the Boeing’s navigation system. The Americans have done this many times before.

Malign Manatee Pompeo’s gloating is an indirect giveaway. He said it was an Iranian missile even before any serious investigation had started. And picking a Tehran-Kiev flight – among so many other flights that day – is a thing of beauty. It carries the possibility of blaming BOTH Iran and Russia (I posted about it; Russia was blamed by Ukrainians). And it carries the possibility of “indirect” collaboration by the Ukro-mafioso system – with US “rewards” showering afterwards.

What about “collateral damage”? There’s A LOT of chatter – of course, no smokin’ gun – that the Ukro-flight was a RAT FLIGHT, as in containing a planeload of dodgy intel types. The destination of the flight is also a dead giveaway. In previous instances, “Canadians” carrying false Canadian passports usually turn out to be CIA and/or MOSSAD operating in Ukraine.

NOTHING is beyond the appalling Exceptionalist racket – and NOTHING should be excluded from investigation. The Ukro-incident completely eviscerated from the news cycle the immense HUMILIATION suffered by the “greatest army in the history of the universe” in Iraq. In fact it could have been the HYBRID WAR AMERICAN RESPONSE - as it happened only five hours after the immense humiliation itself.

This is far from over: it’s an ongoing investigation. Experts are more than welcomed.

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10157820584511678

Starting with 9-11 on through the Las Vegas shooting the whole world has discerned the Saudi/Israeli/US sulphurous stench coming off these events.Unfortunately the Americns haven't.False  
flag attacks in Syria,Epstein/Prince Andrew and now this will all disappear in the next few news cycles as they conjure up the next distraction,please back up or mirror your site as a just in case.Theres not too many proper historical records out there.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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KneelB4Zod! wrote:Brasco_Aad
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Libya

Fayez el Sarraj (chariman of GNA) and Khalifa Haftar (commander of LNA) are in Moscow, Russia right now to sign a peace treaty with each other brokered by Putin and Erdogan.

You have all been fooled.

Good Night.


Wow, the globalists were outmanoeuvre again...

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NATO fucked Lybia and Russia is now fixing the results of their devastating interference.

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Post by Zambeezi Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:13 pm

Balad air base (site of 8 Katyusha rocket strikes hours ago)
Lucas Tomlinson (@LucasFoxNews)
No U.S. or coalition troops hurt in Iraq rocket attack Sunday: statement
4 Iraq Air Force members wounded by 8 Katyusha rockets: Iraqi forces


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Post by Böhse Tante Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:17 pm

Some info about the video of the attack:

"Nariman Gharib has published the video on Twitter in low resolution.
The New York Times wrote to him to see if he could send them the high-resolution version. He did.
The New York Times then published this HD video with the name Nariman Gharib inserted.

But if you look at the profile on Twitter, it says "London" as his place of residence.
How does this fit in with the eyewitness residence Parand?
The cell phone camera was right there: 35.489243°N, 50.906896°E

Did Nariman Gharib get the video from someone else who lives in Parand or does Nariman Gharib himself live in Parand?
But then why is London in his profile?"

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

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Post by Zambeezi Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:25 pm

so much for a Putin/Merkel JCPOA 'breakthrough' Rolling Eyes

today's press release for Fr/Ger/Uk
E3 statement on the JCPoA: 12 January 2020
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e3-statement-on-the-jcpoa-12-january-2020

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Post by Zambeezi Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:30 pm


Hadi al-Ameri and Muqtada al-Sadr are in Qom (!!!) to form a cabinet and elect a new Iraqi Prime Minister

(set your Zionist filters to HIGH) alien
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Post by Zambeezi Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:48 pm

He has it exactly wrong.

Re-writing history to fit your bias.
ISIS had already RISEN, empowered and at the very GATES of Baghdad.
then
the 'call' went out to FORM the Shiite militias... almost 50,000 organized themselves almost overnight
(thanks in LARGE part to Soleimani guidance and encouragement/training)
Fuck off David.
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Post by KneelB4Zod! Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:50 pm

Interesting (just comparison to western supported protests)...:


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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018
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Post by Böhse Tante Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:53 am

NSA Description of Nitro Zeus (NZ)
Stuxnet was only a small part of a much larger Iranian mission. We spent billions on it. We built attack vectors into Iranian command and control systems to prevent Iranians from talking to each other in combat. We infiltrated their IADs, their military air defense systems, so they couldn't shoot at our planes. We also infiltrated their civilian support systems, their power grids, transportation systems, communications networks... We have been in all these systems, waiting, watching, ready to interrupt, degrade and destroy these systems by cyber attack. NZ was the plan for a full cyber attack with no way of knowing who it was.

The narrator in the film stands for several statements by whistleblowers from the CIA and NSA.

> https://rarbg.to/torrent/cl7mfud

From 1h 45min.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitro_Zeus

https://www.heise.de/forum/Telepolis/Kommentare/Iran-Die-Macht-der-Strasse/NSA-Beschreibung-von-Nitro-Zeus-NZ/posting-35920682/show/



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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

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KneelB4Zod! wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:Pepe Escobar
6 hrs ·

IT AIN’T OVER TILL THE CYBER EXPERTS SING

THE STRIKE ON THE UKRAINIAN BOEING MAY HAVE BEEN THE CONSEQUENCE OF A CYBER ATTACK

Iranian radars disabled. Coordinates of a civilian Ukrainian aircraft changed – so it would look like an enemy aircraft.

The downing of the Ukrainian Boeing might have been the result of a US cyber attack.

Of course this is a - literally - explosive issue. I’ve been on it for a few hours now – but it’s Sunday, very hard to get any official comment. I sent messages to different players in Iran and Russia, awaiting response. One of them, from Iran, says “no discussion of a cyber-attack”, for now.

And yet IRGC Aerospace Commander Hajizadeh’s speech is a dead giveaway. He said a huge “anomaly” impaired Tehran’s air defense system, leading to the impression an enemy plane was approaching a sensitive military center – the root of the subsequent “human error”.

He also said that in the hours after the IRGC missile attack on the Ayn al-Asad base, the Americans had multiplied fighter jet flights near Iran’s aerial borders. Not only Tehran was targeted, but other strategic military centers as well.

One can imagine nerves fraying all across the spectrum.

One can read Hajizadeh’s explanation as a very subtle description of a cyber attack. Perhaps the IRGC does not have the full intel – yet. Perhaps they cannot reveal the full story of how they fell victim to a cyber attack – and that would explain the long gap between them acknowledging the hit and the Iranian government officially announcing it.

Russian military site avia.pro goes straight to the point. This is their English version, which is not as detailed as the report in Russian.

http://avia-pro.net/news/prichinoy-unichtozheniya-ukrainskogo-boeing-737-stali-amerikanskie-sredstva-reb?fbclid=IwAR0v6LgAxStLa9gyM0Csp9YCaQz38x314tqBmHRJE-MhS7voeSSATaP1coo

avia.pro are not amateurs. The report in Russian says that if that was cyberwarfare by the Americans, the coup matches point by point the destruction of an IL-20 near Lattakia in September 2018 - which Israeli fighter planes used as a shield.

avia.pro goes for the working hypothesis that the US military cyber attack modified not only the profile of the Ukro-Boeing. The Ukrainian pilot made a U-turn as well. So the cyber attack may have also targeted the Boeing’s navigation system. The Americans have done this many times before.

Malign Manatee Pompeo’s gloating is an indirect giveaway. He said it was an Iranian missile even before any serious investigation had started. And picking a Tehran-Kiev flight – among so many other flights that day – is a thing of beauty. It carries the possibility of blaming BOTH Iran and Russia (I posted about it; Russia was blamed by Ukrainians). And it carries the possibility of “indirect” collaboration by the Ukro-mafioso system – with US “rewards” showering afterwards.

What about “collateral damage”? There’s A LOT of chatter – of course, no smokin’ gun – that the Ukro-flight was a RAT FLIGHT, as in containing a planeload of dodgy intel types. The destination of the flight is also a dead giveaway. In previous instances, “Canadians” carrying false Canadian passports usually turn out to be CIA and/or MOSSAD operating in Ukraine.

NOTHING is beyond the appalling Exceptionalist racket – and NOTHING should be excluded from investigation. The Ukro-incident completely eviscerated from the news cycle the immense HUMILIATION suffered by the “greatest army in the history of the universe” in Iraq. In fact it could have been the HYBRID WAR AMERICAN RESPONSE - as it happened only five hours after the immense humiliation itself.

This is far from over: it’s an ongoing investigation. Experts are more than welcomed.

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10157820584511678

Starting with 9-11 on through the Las Vegas shooting the whole world has discerned the Saudi/Israeli/US sulphurous stench coming off these events.Unfortunately the Americns haven't.False  
flag attacks in Syria,Epstein/Prince Andrew and now this will all disappear in the next few news cycles as they conjure up the next distraction,please back up or mirror your site as a just in case.Theres not too many proper historical records out there.

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That article is beyond stupid. A 5 grader analyzing quantum physics. Greta wannabe much?
Cyber attacks have nothing to do with electronic warfare - they are completely different concepts. The Iranian SA systems are not connected to internet to be cyber attacks subjects and I bet they don't even have data sharing abilities with other military systems.
Yes, spoofing targets was possible though unlikely, especially in that area. Tehran is close to the Caspic sea, +500 km at least from the gulf, over the mountains. That rocket should not have been fired without a specific high level command order since that could have meant open war.
This was a simple human error. Lack of training and experience aggravated by fear.

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Question Exclamation Question

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

Die Lage ist hoffnungslos aber nicht ernst.
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Question Exclamation Question

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No need for a "big event" but development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don't play "their" games - don't use "their" rules - don't think in the box of "their" paradigms.
It's more "refuse" than "resist" - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with like-minded people.

That is what I mean with "I'm on the side of the people".

Ceterum censeo Imperium Americanum esse delendum.

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Post by dumb and dumber Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:09 am

Böhse Tante wrote:

Question Exclamation Question

Fake!

See here the trajectory:
https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/ukrainian-flight-ps752-crashes-shortly-after-take-off-from-tehran/
The plane turned after being hit, of course with one engine in full while climbing and the other destroyed.

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dumb and dumber wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:
khnum wrote:
KneelB4Zod! wrote:Pepe Escobar
6 hrs ·

IT AIN’T OVER TILL THE CYBER EXPERTS SING

THE STRIKE ON THE UKRAINIAN BOEING MAY HAVE BEEN THE CONSEQUENCE OF A CYBER ATTACK

Iranian radars disabled. Coordinates of a civilian Ukrainian aircraft changed – so it would look like an enemy aircraft.

The downing of the Ukrainian Boeing might have been the result of a US cyber attack.

Of course this is a - literally - explosive issue. I’ve been on it for a few hours now – but it’s Sunday, very hard to get any official comment. I sent messages to different players in Iran and Russia, awaiting response. One of them, from Iran, says “no discussion of a cyber-attack”, for now.

And yet IRGC Aerospace Commander Hajizadeh’s speech is a dead giveaway. He said a huge “anomaly” impaired Tehran’s air defense system, leading to the impression an enemy plane was approaching a sensitive military center – the root of the subsequent “human error”.

He also said that in the hours after the IRGC missile attack on the Ayn al-Asad base, the Americans had multiplied fighter jet flights near Iran’s aerial borders. Not only Tehran was targeted, but other strategic military centers as well.

One can imagine nerves fraying all across the spectrum.

One can read Hajizadeh’s explanation as a very subtle description of a cyber attack. Perhaps the IRGC does not have the full intel – yet. Perhaps they cannot reveal the full story of how they fell victim to a cyber attack – and that would explain the long gap between them acknowledging the hit and the Iranian government officially announcing it.

Russian military site avia.pro goes straight to the point. This is their English version, which is not as detailed as the report in Russian.

http://avia-pro.net/news/prichinoy-unichtozheniya-ukrainskogo-boeing-737-stali-amerikanskie-sredstva-reb?fbclid=IwAR0v6LgAxStLa9gyM0Csp9YCaQz38x314tqBmHRJE-MhS7voeSSATaP1coo

avia.pro are not amateurs. The report in Russian says that if that was cyberwarfare by the Americans, the coup matches point by point the destruction of an IL-20 near Lattakia in September 2018 - which Israeli fighter planes used as a shield.

avia.pro goes for the working hypothesis that the US military cyber attack modified not only the profile of the Ukro-Boeing. The Ukrainian pilot made a U-turn as well. So the cyber attack may have also targeted the Boeing’s navigation system. The Americans have done this many times before.

Malign Manatee Pompeo’s gloating is an indirect giveaway. He said it was an Iranian missile even before any serious investigation had started. And picking a Tehran-Kiev flight – among so many other flights that day – is a thing of beauty. It carries the possibility of blaming BOTH Iran and Russia (I posted about it; Russia was blamed by Ukrainians). And it carries the possibility of “indirect” collaboration by the Ukro-mafioso system – with US “rewards” showering afterwards.

What about “collateral damage”? There’s A LOT of chatter – of course, no smokin’ gun – that the Ukro-flight was a RAT FLIGHT, as in containing a planeload of dodgy intel types. The destination of the flight is also a dead giveaway. In previous instances, “Canadians” carrying false Canadian passports usually turn out to be CIA and/or MOSSAD operating in Ukraine.

NOTHING is beyond the appalling Exceptionalist racket – and NOTHING should be excluded from investigation. The Ukro-incident completely eviscerated from the news cycle the immense HUMILIATION suffered by the “greatest army in the history of the universe” in Iraq. In fact it could have been the HYBRID WAR AMERICAN RESPONSE - as it happened only five hours after the immense humiliation itself.

This is far from over: it’s an ongoing investigation. Experts are more than welcomed.

https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10157820584511678

Starting with 9-11 on through the Las Vegas shooting the whole world has discerned the Saudi/Israeli/US sulphurous stench coming off these events.Unfortunately the Americns haven't.False  
flag attacks in Syria,Epstein/Prince Andrew and now this will all disappear in the next few news cycles as they conjure up the next distraction,please back up or mirror your site as a just in case.Theres not too many proper historical records out there.

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That article is beyond stupid. A 5 grader analyzing quantum physics. Greta wannabe much?
Cyber attacks have nothing to do with electronic warfare - they are completely different concepts. The Iranian SA systems are not connected to internet to be cyber attacks subjects and I bet they don't even have data sharing abilities with other military systems.
Yes, spoofing targets was possible though unlikely, especially in that area. Tehran is close to the Caspic sea, +500 km at least from the gulf, over the mountains. That rocket should not have been fired without a specific high level command order since that could have meant open war.
This was a simple human error. Lack of training and experience aggravated by fear.

Did you hear the story aabout Stuxnet and Iranian nuclear program? Yes, even air-gapped systems can be breached so it actually doesn't matter if computer is connected to the internet.

https://www.f5.com/labs/articles/cisotociso/attacking-air-gap-segregated-computers

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